From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Mar 16 18:48:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A13D0FED4 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC671B15 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AC20ED0FED1; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC54D0FED0 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm4-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 869E21B14 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1489689894; bh=0F+3pdHYcxfIWEKB95YNgQEI8yVafFTWKxaWnzdAu5Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=jNOY3S8l4X8Hq9ruesIsdk1j6ZNC/idw1u4hb5A5Bj0Dck/IucZeDLAQJfwY6sutGze/hhZoVAGLzD2dTmHU0S6+K99CV23IAi2uefrnmpSqJwaRbD2aSqwWVou93URTepfyCyRxcV63RYPFV97W1f+kdu//hlxCHCFReaqoeCU= Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2017 18:44:54 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.118] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2017 18:44:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2017 18:44:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 30285.79620.bm@smtp113.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: BkwYArUVM1nwvyti2q9s2X_UoPehDuBZIV0sopeAB33THLj iYNJnJqnOMAQCL0Im79VrrZWiMolSZn_nIo5ZZPHRXXbUMvrNIujtUNl1aKX DJgl4GVFB2ZOBAtwcnzHOZbHgwIYLA9iUTw6ET7GV1UY_hXf3Cl58Agc5jCp zGgk.QGfbTBgC8FKFRAVF.ZPTV62WcIuvuMKjqilmlot7c0Offjw5G0Vw42_ U2VfLPODRKuSGSTIVLeBtzID8AvW94bwWuB4kwuZCtIDS7CSNE9R4NOtSdw1 222FVBNmuEgLwrOcdsMf6UBeBQjC20n.I1um8_PrcnPRLXb3a4hsi5tHHlMl mr7Y0.llxFYnV1uGAQDjeB5Fb.V0KotGFSw_UcYHjlLLnZqATD_.uTQoQCj9 T31NvBPwv6BYB_aQZSFJ8OGjjbEdqDx.V3Rg30UBISCUABn8_sR7ONP6Oq6V CHXl02vlCQ.TJIdmL2qK2jBBpaUXELbta5lFRgFQ18pFBTrq644vfht3Xzh5 aCGKqM3pBTKMByQD3TB4FuG.srQaYvuj8zoUdf6qSXF5e_v7z_A3tKj4- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: A potential sine-qua-non reason... Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:44:53 -0400 Message-ID: <22mlcc9uva04rlkkij4tq2rh11pbc2gkt4@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:48:15 -0000 ...to spin off a project to package first a desktop/workstation and later a server. >From The Register: Water cooler Q: I read an article this week headlined: "The latest Kaby Lake, Zen chips will support only Windows 10." It claimed Intel and AMD's new processors are "officially supported only by Microsoft’s Windows 10." This can't be true? What about Linux? A: The short answer is Intel's Kaby Lake aka its seventh-generation Core i3, i5 and i7 processors, and AMD's Zen-based chips, are not locked down to Windows 10: they'll boot Linux, the BSDs, Chrome OS, home-brew kernels, OS X, whatever software supports them. So if you want to use Linux or some other non-Windows OS on your new CPUs, you'll be fine. It's OK, we checked. Q: Sweet. What about Windows 7? Or Windows 8.1? Or any Windows pre-10? A: Yeah... nah. Shad Larsen, Microsoft's director of Windows business planning, blogged earlier this month: "Future silicon platforms including Intel's upcoming 7th Gen Intel Core (Kaby Lake) processor family and AMD’s 7th generation processors (e.g. Bristol Ridge) will only be supported on Windows 10, and all future silicon releases will require the latest release of Windows 10." https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/02/windows_intel_kaby_lake_amd_zen/ 2 Sep 2016 at 09:33 ----------------------------------------------- Given that there are still millions of XP holdouts even today, the likelihood of everyone simply falling into line and paying a $10 -- $25 monthly fee per seat because Micro$oft say they must seems very small to me. My sense is that all but the Windows fanboyz and the really big corporations will say "buggrit" and move to Linux, faute de mieux. Unless we offer a choice.