From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 23:24:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A98913 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 23:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from diana.db.net (unknown [IPv6:2620:64:0:1:223:7dff:fea2:c8f2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D6C6A4 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 23:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from night.db.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by diana.db.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9C52AA35B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:24:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by night.db.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 277521CCFC; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:23:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:23:52 -0500 From: Diane Bruce To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: group(5) Group Passwords do not work Message-ID: <20130207232352.GA51387@night.db.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:24:49 -0000 Hi, I've been looking at pw & friends for a while when this PR was brought to my attention. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/167741 Right now group passwords in /etc/group are marked with * I'm told some linux distributions are marking this as "NOTUSED" Clearly our man pages should either be changed to make it much more clear that this stuff does not work and will never work in FreeBSD or the code should be changed to make it work. ;) Mark Saad spent some time checking this. If it is stated it is never going to be made to work, by core or whatever, some of the code in libutil + pw can be simplified a bit. It was also suggested on IRC that it is also possible that some pam code does expect group passwords to work or at least passed through. How are we to proceed folks? - Diane -- - db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://www.db.net/~db