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Date:      Sun, 11 May 1997 01:17:57 -0700
From:      Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
To:        Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: g++ shared library segfaults 
Message-ID:  <199705110817.BAA01774@rah.star-gate.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 10:32:19 %2B0300." <Pine.BSF.3.96.970511100239.7968A-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee> 

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Tnks  I have worked quite a bit with tcl and I know what it is.

	Regards,
	Amancio


> 
> [cc: list snipped]
> 
> On Sat, 10 May 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Mea Culpa got a little lost in the meaning of semantics I should have 
> > known better what you meant :(
> > 
> > Reduction or "Beauty" as it is known in certain other fields is different
> > than brute force methods. Actually, I shouldn't talk down too much
> > brute force --- just ask the current World Chess champion 8)
> > 
> > Now working smart and choosing your constraints carefully is a different
> > issue. 
> > 
> > At any rate back to work over here , based on the feedback that I gotten
> > so far I am looking into webtk and amulet -- Now just because I am
> > looking into those packages does not mean that I am going to use 
> > tcl/tck nor the amulet library -- there is such a thing call abstraction 8)
> > 
> 
> Still, if, at some point of time you think that there could be such a
> think as tcl based scritping (that is - there is an embeded tcl
> interpretator with a number of restrictions but access to the facilities
> of the program). And I don't mean something like emacs. And not
> something like MSWord. I mean something small, and with no commands
> written in tcl. It is a glue language after all.
> 
> I have done a lot of tcl commands, if you feel like getting some, let me
> know.
> 
> 	Sander
> 
> > Not too say that is really the way to go however I am really impress by
> > webtk --- excellent example of what a poor language can do.
> > 
> > So in one corner we have  webtk with is obvious advantage/disadvantage 
> > and in the opposite corner we have Qt and Amulet. Qt seems easier to use
> > however it lacks a nice GUI builder what is nice about it is its meta
> > object interface for tokens "slots" and "signals". Don't know that much 
> > about Amulet yet just got it compile over here so far it looks like
> > a strong contender not so much for it object oriented interface rather
> > for its supporting functionality for constraints : gesture recognition,
> > animation, ability to mimic look/feel for mac/win95/motif. Amulet comes
> > with a "nice" gui builder -- just try it out over here and it looks
> > like it can be useful.
> > 
> > 	Enjoy,
> > 	Amancio
> > 
> > >From The Desk Of Terry Lambert :
> > > > > > > What I am looking for is for experienced programmers that can 
> > > > > > > come in and do the "job" -- the job being defined as a cool
> > > > > > > document program.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That job is about 3 man-years worth of work.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cool.  If he can get 365 volunteers (and one leap-volunteer 8-))
> > > > > then he can be done in 3 days.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, 9 pregnant women can not deliver one baby in a month. 
> > > > 
> > > > "Mythical Man Month" by Fred Brooks  first published in 1975.
> > > > 
> > > > For those interested the book is about managing large scale projects.
> > > > 
> > > > Reducing complex problems is not the same as throwing bodies at 
> > > > a project.
> > > 
> > > I know.  I was making the distinction between 9 motivated programmers
> > > and throwing 365 bodies at the problem.  Jordan seemed to be implying
> > > that your call for programmers was a throwing of bodies, and that
> > > something that would take 3 many years was not worth pursuing on a
> > > voluntary basis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 					Regards,
> > > 					Terry Lambert
> > > 					terry@lambert.org
> > > ---
> > > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> > > or previous employers.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 





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