From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 11:53:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9D716A4CF for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:53:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.thilelli.net (smtp.thilelli.net [213.41.129.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A506043D39 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:53:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpeg@thilelli.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bento.thilelli.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D1C73066; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:53:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from bento.thilelli.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bento.thilelli.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 39584-01; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:53:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.thilelli.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bento.thilelli.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EF47305D; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:53:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.1.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jgabel); by webmail.thilelli.net with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:53:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <63792.192.168.1.18.1106999621.squirrel@192.168.1.18> In-Reply-To: References: <38474.145.248.192.30.1106905141.squirrel@145.248.192.30> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:53:41 +0100 (CET) From: "Julien Gabel" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at thilelli.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jpeg@thilelli.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:53:53 -0000 >>> Your missing the point. INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES >>> on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained, >>> ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete >>> install. Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release >>> the CDROMS in the first place. >> Included or not, the release is self contained (and don't require an >> internet in that case) since the INDEX or INDEX-5 file can always be >> generated from the local ports tree, via : >> # cd /usr/ports; make index > So can many of the utilities - like perl and X - that are now > supplied as binaries. Not self-contained on the disk1. I said 'make index', not 'make fetchindex'. The case of packages themselves are another thing, i think. I tend to think that this file was forgotten during the release's process (but i don't know), i just want to point the fact that it can be self-generated without a network connection. Nothing more. > I guess you want to go back to the 386BSD days when you had > to build all those things yourself. I think you deserve to have > your FreeBSD taken away for a month and be forced to run Solaris > 2.5.1. That will teach you to smart off about being able to generate > things. How would you like a Sendmail upgrade to take 2 > hours, eh? Or let's see even better - how about bootstrapping > a usable version of gcc on a SunOS box? Been there, done that. > We don't want to go back to those days. There's a reason that > precompiled and pregenerated stuff is included in the UNIX > distributions. > > Neither Disk 1's require KDE or GNOME to be generated from the > sources, either. Nothing wrong here, however that was not my point in this post. -- -jpeg.