From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 20:12:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323D716A468 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9DD13C457; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <470A8F2A.9070706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:12:26 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per olof Ljungmark References: <4705E5B1.6010808@ooz.net> <470A6C43.7040104@intersonic.se> <470A7CE7.1070605@FreeBSD.org> <470A7FEC.6060806@intersonic.se> <470A84FF.1090605@FreeBSD.org> <470A8CE2.8060106@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <470A8CE2.8060106@intersonic.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:12:27 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>> Kris Kennaway wrote: >>>> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>> Elvar wrote: >>>>>> Hi there, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this >>>>> option (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone? >>>> >>>> Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and >>>> holding back further development. >>>> >>>> If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining >>>> the necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a >>>> PR. Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect >>>> anyone to fix your problems. >>> >>> Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no >>> dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging? >> > >> > I would post more information if I knew how to get it. >> >> Of course, and it's documented in the above place. Did you read it yet? > > I've used that information on other occasions but then at least the > keyboard was functional. Not sure how to interpret what is says in a > proper fashion, I could guess of course: What I see is termed a > "deadlock"? I'll definitely try that one on this little bugger then. Yes. Break to DDB, then proceed. Kris