From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 8 06:54:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FBC106564A for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 06:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646128FC12 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 06:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n686srBa003017; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:54:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n686sqxU003016; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:54:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:54:52 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Dan Naumov Message-ID: <20090708065452.GB2904@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Dan Naumov , rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com, FreeBSD Stable Mailing List References: <20090706073941.GA78371@ei.bzerk.org> <20090706074256.GD6306@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <4A51B721.5020505@andric.com> <4A51B9FA.9010906@andric.com> <20090706093904.GA79434@ei.bzerk.org> <20090706212045.GA91095@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <20090707092451.GA92743@ei.bzerk.org> <20090707160928.GA1662@keira.kiwi-computer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:54:57 +0200 (CEST) Cc: rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com, FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: What is /boot/kernel/*.symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:54:59 -0000 On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 07:29:24PM +0300, Dan Naumov typed: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Rick C. > Petty wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:24:51AM +0200, Ruben de Groot wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 04:20:45PM -0500, Rick C. Petty typed: > >> > On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:39:04AM +0200, Ruben de Groot wrote: > >> > > On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 10:46:50AM +0200, Dimitry Andric typed: > >> > > > > >> > > > Right, so it's a lot bigger on amd64. ?I guess those 64-bit pointers > >> > > > aren't entirely free. :) > >> > > > >> > > I'm not sure where the size difference comes from. I have some sparc64 > >> > > systems running -current with symbols and the size of /boot/kernel is > >> > > more comparable to i386, even with the 8-byte pointer size: > >> > > >> > Um, probably there are a lot of devices on amd64 that aren't available for > >> > sparc64? > >> > >> Yes, That's probably it. > > > > It was just a theory; I don't have sparc64. ?What's your output of > > "ls -1 /boot/kernel | wc"? > > > > -- Rick C. Petty > > atom# uname -a > FreeBSD atom.localdomain 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed > Jun 24 00:14:35 UTC 2009 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > atom# ls -1 /boot/kernel | wc > 1011 1011 15243 On sparc: morninglightmountain# uname -pr 8.0-CURRENT sparc64 morninglightmountain# ls /boot/kernel | wc 853 853 13045 morninglightmountain# wc -l /usr/src/sys/sparc64/conf/GENERIC /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC 247 /usr/src/sys/sparc64/conf/GENERIC 322 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC 569 total So, fewer drivers and also less devices in GENERIC, as might be expected. regards, Ruben