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Message-ID: <20191215071018.1a5c75cb@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20191215005020.7bah32maj7rjjo6h@woodcruft.co.uk> References: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> <20191214111857.67b4c53e@archlinux> <20191214124809.9b205826.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191215000423.5d43ff86@archlinux> <20191215005020.7bah32maj7rjjo6h@woodcruft.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47bDXJ53dTz4BgW X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.64 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.47)[-0.468,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.69)[-0.685,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[147.178.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[147.178.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.58), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.25), asn: 34010(1.78), country: GB(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 06:10:09 -0000 On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:50:20 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: >On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:04:23AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf via >freebsd-questions wrote: >> >> On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:48:09 +0100, Polytropon wrote: =20 >> >FreeBSD should therefore be seen as a foundation, not as a "one size >> >fits all egg-laying wool-milk-sow", which it isn't, and which _no_ >> >OS, despite imaginable claims, is. To expect (!) something >> >different than this fact is absolute nonsense. =20 >>=20 >> "I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I >> think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do." - HAL 9000 >>=20 >> AI{,O} is what users expect nowadays and it will come soon, most >> likely with harmful secondary effects. =20 > > >My fear is that we wont get as far as seeing the secondary effects >since the 'deus ex machina' is ourselves: > >"Three great powers rule the world: greed, fear, and stupidity."=20 > > -- Mark Twain > >How do you fancy those 3 characteristics of humanity raised to the nth >degree? > > >Regards, > The German Wiki regarding transhumanism [ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanismus ] shows a picture of Oscar Pistorius [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Pistorius#Murder_of_Reeva_Steenkamp ]. Assuming there will ever be a transhuman race based on implants, then in the future the transhuman master race most likely is allowed to kill or at least to assimilate humans, but they much likely are not allowed to kill other transhumans. Probably those transhumans have got a chip in their brain, that makes them follow the collective. IOW there will be no greed, fear or stupidity against the transhuman collective. Given that freethinkers never had a such an easy life as those who go with the flow, transhumans probably will generate pure envy and hate against freethinkers. Actually nowadays useful prosthetics from brain pacemaker to leg prosthesis is used by humans who suffer from a medical issue. Nowadays those who call them self transhumans are idiots with useless implants. Implants that at best allow to open a door in the same way we could open the same door with a RFID thingy on a key ring in our pants pockets or grotesque expansion of the senses, that actually are not new senses, but just freakish stimuli of already existing senses. In the near future I do not expect real transhumans. I even doubt that transhumans in the far future will use implants, I suspect genetically modified humans who don't need implants at all. In the near future I suspect AIO computers with AI that is able to recognise its purpose. It will configurate itself to a server, server farm, digital audio workstation or whatever else. However, misconfigurations will happen and probably run out of control.=20 --=20 =E2=80=9CAwards are merely the badges of mediocrity.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=95 Charles Ives=20