From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 28 18:12:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E2616A403; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CFC13C46E; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E3D5EDD; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:53:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xggA3qPezGPT; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:53:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-114-230.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.114.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD475C64; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:53:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4594049E.2040404@mac.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:53:34 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ion-Mihai IOnut Tetcu , nivo+sender+0820bd@is-root.com References: <4593AB3D.5090107@is-root.com> <20061228122828.GA8473@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> <20061228123616.GA8652@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> <20061228145728.4f13fa4a@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20061228145728.4f13fa4a@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: vd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to construct this port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:12:13 -0000 Ion-Mihai IOnut Tetcu wrote: > On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:36:16 +0200 > Vasil Dimov wrote: [ ... ] >> Do you really block all mails coming from Bulgaria? > > Romania also. [ ... ] > Since I saw others doing this, I'd really like a statement from portmgr > (BCC'ed) that commiters and maintainers are not allowed to reject mail > like this. I, for one, would commit via instant maintainer timeout to > ports belonging this type of maintainers. It is certainly reasonable to consider a permanent rejection of mail as justification for a "maintainer timeout". It's also fine to tell port maintainers they "should not reject legitimate mail"-- whether they block the mail due to broad country/domain filtering, RBLs, or some other reason doesn't really matter. However, sometimes mail systems go down or block traffic for whatever reason: postmaster's job is a thankless task, and this was true even before spam and viral email appeared. Nowadays, it's harder to get things mostly right (nevermind "perfect"), so postmasters make imperfect decisions because they are faced with undesirable tradeoffs. It has not been my observation that insisting people not make any mistakes commonly results in fewer mistakes being made, or much less, in zero mistakes being made. :-) Rather than try to insist they "are not allowed" to do something, I'd prefer to let people make their own decisions and learn which ones are mistakes. YMMV.... -- -Chuck