From owner-freebsd-java  Mon Feb  2 10:00:39 1998
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG>
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01861
          for java-outgoing; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:00:39 -0800 (PST)
          (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG)
Received: from damon.com (PSzla8lklrjk2B37j7jLlVUmr0oHjZKx@damon.com [207.170.114.1])
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01856
          for <freebsd-java@freebsd.org>; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:00:37 -0800 (PST)
          (envelope-from dap@damon.com)
Received: (from dap@localhost)
	by damon.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA06670;
	Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:00:13 -0600 (CST)
	(envelope-from dap)
From: Damon Permezel <dap@damon.com>
Message-Id: <199802021800.MAA06670@damon.com>
Subject: Re: TimeSlicing in  JVM
In-Reply-To: <199802021754.LAA06618@damon.com> from Damon Permezel at "Feb 2, 98 11:54:09 am"
To: dap@fubar.damon.com (Damon Permezel)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:00:13 -0600 (CST)
Cc: dap@damon.com, jb@cimlogic.com.au, nate@mt.sri.com,
        SSANKARA.IN.oracle.com.ofcmail@in.oracle.com, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Precedence: bulk
X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe java"

"Damon Permezel sez: "
> "Damon Permezel sez: "
> > "Damon Permezel sez: "
... blah blah blah...
> > > 
> > I think you mean "now", rather than not, no?
> > 
> 
> Correct, but I have observed applications which used to work stop.
> For example, using the current non-fractal hallucinations, patched to not call
> yield:
> 
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=lib java -ts100 damon.dap.NFH.NFH -w 128
> 
> never displays the initial window, and the idle thread is running.
> If I change it to `-ts3000' to give it a chance to get the initial window
> up, it runs OK, but what use is a 3 second time slice?
> 
> Thus, there are bugs which turning timeslice on aggravates.
> The sun/awt code has all these locks which think they are not recursively
> obtainable, but which are clearly recursive.  This may be at least one source
> of these problems.
> 

Running with the tiny toolkit, it appears to work "better" in some respects.
tiny toolkit comes with a whole slew of its own problems, though, which I
am somewhat interested in persuing.

export JAVA_AWT_TOOLKIT=sun.awt.tiny.TinyToolkit; LD_LIBRARY_PATH=lib java -ts100 damon.dap.NFH.NFH -w 128