From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 21 22:37:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3767616A59B; Sun, 21 May 2006 22:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D66443D46; Sun, 21 May 2006 22:37:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DD2131099; Mon, 22 May 2006 08:07:49 +0930 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DC5586F58; Mon, 22 May 2006 08:07:49 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:07:49 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20060521223749.GA37532@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <32264.1147899148@critter.freebsd.dk> <446B8E36.8050902@elischer.org> <20060518000342.GJ61448@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060521221556.GA97506@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060521223518.GA34882@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060521223518.GA34882@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp , src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Product management (was: Apologies (was: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 ObsoleteFiles.inc src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist src/etc/rc.d Makefile isdnd pcvt syscons src/release/picobsd/build picobsd src/share/man/man4 Makefile atkbd.4 kbdmux.4 pcvt.4 splash.4 vkbd.4 ...)) X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 22:37:56 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 22 May 2006 at 0:35:18 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 07:45:56AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote.. >> A number of people have contacted me expressing concern about the >> message I sent recently, and that I was being rude to phk. I formally >> apologize to phk and anybody else who might feel offended. It wasn't >> my intention to be offensive, merely to draw attention to problems we >> have with product management. These problems remain. > > I'm not entirely sure what problems exactly, The question was who should authorize removing code from the tree. > but shouldn't these be addressed by re@, portmaster@, core@ for > example? Yes. That's what I said (core@). Arguably there should be a separate product management team, but my guess is that that wouldn't work well in our environment. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEcOu9IubykFB6QiMRAs7HAJ92iD96a3UofwTDxdVEHpG//Y85nQCeJxwx SKNg1U/zTkzUEKUpT1PfRkc= =yFCo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3--