From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 22:18:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C5C16A41F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:18:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcp1990@neptune.atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C53943D48 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:18:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcp1990@neptune.atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1034) id 8DC1A60F8; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:18:20 -0400 From: Dan Ponte To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051006221820.GB38659@neptune.atopia.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi> <20051006204336.GA36557@neptune.atopia.net> <43459BEB.2090503@scls.lib.wi.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43459BEB.2090503@scls.lib.wi.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: new FreeBSD-webpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:18:13 -0000 --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 04:49:31PM -0500, Greg Barniskis was witnessed plotting the following conspiracy: > Dan Ponte (>) [with help from some others (>>)] wrote: >=20 > >>A lot of stuff has been removed from plain sight which means > >>more clicking and scrolling and searching and waiting. > >>Oh yes, let's all start burying information.. >=20 > I personally didn't have any problems grokking the new layout or > finding anything I thought to look for. >=20 >=20 > >>With Opera, about 40% of the screen space is left unused. >=20 > This part I'd agree with. Too much white space around main content > leads to too much scrolling. Let the text flow as wide as the user > decides to; switch to %-based widths, not absolute pixel widths (the > flip side of too much white space in a wide window is that the text > don't wrap in a narrow window. ouch.). Observations made in Firefox. >=20 >=20 > >>The old one was better. > >> > >I second that all the way. Personally, I feel that the FreeBSD project > >is doing too much in the way of appearing "trendy" to attract new users, >=20 > Can't disagree with these statements more. The old way, while rich, > seemed way too densely packed. I think the changes should make it > easier to zero in on what's needed, even if some content is one or > two clicks deeper than it used to be. I doubt the primary goal here > was to appear trendy. Well, it certainly seems as if that was one of the goals, seeing how the new site uses quite a few new webdesign concepts that came into existence in the past few years, while providing little benefit in the way of content or usability. > Thanks, Contributors! >=20 >=20 > Now, if only the site Search worked better... ah well, there's=20 > always http://www.google.com/bsd >=20 -Dan --=20 Dan Ponte http://www.theamigan.net/ Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. -- Henry David Thoreau --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDRaKs8dUD8SpKFR8RAoZWAKCsOjcnppatcD3Wzcw4b6ScgtpX0wCfXIpc a4s8dPOCd7b9arE1TaRTM78= =nFz2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh--