From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 11:20:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528CA16A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C091913C469 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A5E27.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.94.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m16BKtmG021531; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:20:56 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16BMwrn042793; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:22:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16BMrBv079324; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:22:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200802061122.m16BMrBv079324@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Ivan Voras In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to Ivan Voras message dated "Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:48:22 +0100." Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:22:53 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: finstall alpha3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:20:58 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > As some of you may already know, I'm working on a graphical installer > for FreeBSD 7, which was started as a Google SoC 2007 project but still > continues. 10+ years back when Jordan did first pre= X, 24x80 graphical installer, soon afer he'd finished a blind chap posted ~So how do I install ?~ Answer then: ~Get a friend do it for you, or abandon FreeBSD & use NetBSD~ NetBSD still have Ascii installer, so more attractive to some. Idea for another SOC project : An automated tool that could descramble all the glitz of [arbitrary ?] graphics tools back to something sensible / Ascii, a bit like what OCR does for printed paper. No doubt a bew grraphical installer might be nice (if X is reliable which it often is Not, & don't rely on VESA either on old hardware), but just so's we don't forget blind too, amazingly they use computers (with expensive interfaces). Also visually impaired do too, the later simply with simple text xterms with Monster fonts, rather than graphics I presume. -- Julian Stacey. BSD Unix Linux Net Consultant, Munich. http://berklix.com