From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 2:13:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from athena.hq.herculeez.com (adsl-213-254-161-195.mistral-uk.net [213.254.161.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D994237B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:13:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@herculeez.com) Received: (qmail 10486 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 09:12:29 -0000 Received: from madoka.hq.herculeez.com (HELO herculeez.com) (192.168.0.23) by athena.hq.herculeez.com with SMTP; 30 May 2001 09:12:29 -0000 Message-ID: <3B14B9E6.4D5E4CF6@herculeez.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:14:14 +0100 From: Simon Loader Reply-To: simon@herculeez.com Organization: www.herculeez.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, cs MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <200105292336.f4TNaRT01704@mass.dis.org> <200105292334.f4TNYKg31968@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have to disagree. Here, let me give a contrasting example: > > * you schg a binary > * hacker breaks root > * hacker is unable to modify binary. Whoopie. Hacker decides to rm -rf > your data files instead. So they change sshd start up script, hack peoples paths so they run the hackers version of stuff. Modify the startup scripts to change security level ( this is possible isnt it???) and then change the file. if you schg one file you start having to do everything and then it becomes unmanageable. -- Simon Loader (side note on nis last time I was a nis admin (5 yrs ago?) when root on a one box I could su to another user (say an admin user) and then change there start up scripts. So I dont think NIS is that brilliant) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message