From owner-freebsd-small Fri Nov 6 12:29:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27198 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:29:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27182 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:29:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.164]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4FF7; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:29:34 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36433B8E.78D0E8C1@aei.ca> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 21:33:37 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Malartre Subject: RE: School Server & PicoBSD Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 06-Nov-98 Malartre wrote: > Hi, I'm near 16 years old :-) Hi mate, 20 here =) > I would like to show at my school how FreeBSD is powerful, but also get > some technical skills with servers. If the admin let me play with is > stupid machine of course.. That's always the issue... Be careful, if ye get caught while not having the authorisation ye might be in for some surprises =\ > We have something like 70-90 computers, (30 Macs, 30 WinNT and 30 Win95. > I don't know why they buyed so much systems: it simply don't work > properly. What they using as default protocol? TCP/IP? > When we are a class of people on the net at the same time, it can take > up to 10 minute to load a page. The server is ... a WinNT+a hub > solution. So that means a 10 or 100 MBit shared uplink to the workstations. Class being 20 people? > Has I never worked with WinNT and with Ethernet system, I would like to > know: > > -Is it a problem with Ethernet (I think they use 10baseT), WinNT or > both? Nah, Ethernet without SAP/RIP broadcast crap is very adequate and fast... > -Would PicoBSD change that? (talking about speed) Don't really think so... The hub is a problem IMHO... At my job we have a dedicated Shiva router for the uplink to UUNet and packetswitch it to the backbone... > Because I would like to bring PicoBSD, simply enter it and reboot. That might work. The booting that is... > The only job I want him to do is to act has a server(gateway?) to access > internet. > The main problem are: > -I don't currently know the hardware of the server. But it's not > bullshit I think. Certainly a P200 and + Hardware might be a problem... > -I never worked with Ethernet, I don't know the architecture of the > school system. Why should Ethernet stop ye? it's simply the cabling and lowerlevel encapsulation of data... > -PicoBSD would not have a swap partition (which could bring some > problem, neh?) Especially for WWW-proxies... > Now, could it be possible to: > Simply reboot with PicoBSD, configure the kernel (I know how to do > that), configure the Ethernet(that's the real new part), reboot, > working. Configure the Ethernet? Not needed... Nope... Most likely, since it is one server doing the Internet load it will need a www-proxy like Squid or the likes... > It would be a demonstration. > > Would it be simple? Depends on which aspect ye referring too. Booting? Aye. Overal picture? Nay. > Should I use the router version? Depends on what the Internet uplink is. HTH some, --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message