From owner-freebsd-chat Wed May 21 10:12:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21773 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from superior.mooseriver.com (ppp010-sm2.sirius.com [205.134.231.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21761 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.mooseriver.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10751; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:11:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Josef Grosch Message-Id: <199705211711.KAA10751@superior.mooseriver.com> Subject: Re: Cluster Computing in BSD In-Reply-To: <204A515F05@bldg1.croute.com> from Larry Dolinar at "May 21, 97 10:26:38 am" To: larryd@bldg1.croute.com (Larry Dolinar) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: chat@freebsd.org Reply-To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Larry Dolinar said: >And the clouds parted on 21 May 97, and J Wunsch > said: > >>As Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: >> >>> I don't doubt it, they receive good cash from everything they sell, the >>> problem is that either their products suck (like AIX and AS400), ... >> >>AIX has it's good ends, too. I would be more than happy to have their >>LVM and JFS in FreeBSD, trust me. >> >>When i ran `shutdown' on an AIX machine some time ago, my colleague >>asked me, apparently astonished: ``Why the heck do you do this? >>Simply turn it off!'' :) > >Bet *he* never spent any significant time trying to revive a bootable >filesystem that got trashed by that approach... > AIX's JFS is robust enought that one can just turn off the power and not trash the filesystem. The down side is JFS is a disk hog. Of course one should alway perform a normal shutdown. >> >>-- >>cheers, J"org > >We just fired a guy that repeatedly ignored standard shutdown procedures >on one of our Sparc 10's. His rationale: the Unix for Dummies book >didn't say anything about it. > >Good thing I didn't get to him first [diabolical laughter..] > The key here is the word "Dummies" Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses