From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 07:34:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7924916A4CE; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:34:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B7443D49; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:34:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAT7Y8ei026166; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:34:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Scott Long From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:17:53 MST." <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:34:08 +0100 Message-ID: <26165.1101713648@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: David Xu cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:34:10 -0000 In message <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: >For the past 1+ years I've recieved nothing but complaints from >developers who have told me that the beastie menu was silly, >unprofessional, annoying, and/or confusing. Since nanobsd commit probably was the straw that broke the back of the camel: The reason why I disable the beastie menu in some of my nanobsd builds are that a couple of those systems sit with a 2400bps GSM phone as console connection. I'm absolutely certain that I am not the person to judge if the beastie menu is a good thing or not in general, and whatever happens in nanobsd should not be taken as indicative of anything related to user-friendlyness as most nanobsd boxes have no on-line users. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.