From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 15 18:47:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064E8C12; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2237D3; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hn17so838995wib.4 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c74WaPpWKg5efyGbJFgXdLmQwxt65oxmXK+LS7qKiFs=; b=S6SkrL05fdZELIOYPVf/RHxFU1rM59KhSU15NJBRi/NjBWZ/mKlwjYflw6HtktP20O pDA/nxstnevHQX5ACCA4iB2A3llmxJ48ISouGsdq09amfKD8rqpV9h8P/27U0Tml+W+9 XpUW+MstRYu4oisLrvuAR+cuzzPH6Jc974OCMUFvuLM/rpFZiQcRJx8QZO9iysGDW8pG oPhNw1+8ZdmIkRr87S18eyLc3iAHaBtP93Ympre7EeLdBTn2ClmMDKKqng15lBGDvQLH c4Ca0FNp1+qdjJxJxv83ZVd7IIRY1IkJ9KfqfxUWLf1Ch8/uKQTajqGXQkWW9KDwhxfz ZxXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.94.135 with SMTP id dc7mr4984392wib.11.1363373217887; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.111.201 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5143643D.3040609@mu.org> References: <514324E8.30209@freebsd.org> <201303150946.29100.jhb@freebsd.org> <51433D30.30405@freebsd.org> <51435271.2040402@mu.org> <5143643D.3040609@mu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:46:57 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YK0e2KVYDZ9MG2Lj0_umwqi4NDU Message-ID: Subject: Re: NewNFS vs. oldNFS for 10.0? From: Adrian Chadd To: Alfred Perlstein Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: rmacklem@uoguelph.ca, Andre Oppermann , freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:47:00 -0000 On 15 March 2013 11:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > People in my org have been working with NFS and reporting issues for the > past year. I'm quite certain that Doug White has reported issues due to > missing certain caching features of the old code. > > This is not indicative that newNFS is bad, just that it still needs some > work. Good news. and yes, it needs more work, but it doesn't preclude it from having a cutover date set. Even if that date is something far in the future, like 11.0. Or we'll just end up with two NFS stacks for some undetermined amount of time. > Sure, and how much NFS do you actually use and support exactly? .. and exactly how much would that lend to this discussion? I'm not arguing NFS technical details, I'm arguing project forward thinking and planning. These don't need me to be waist deep in NFS, it needs a broader view of how things may and may not go. I lived through the pain of Linux having multiple NFS implementations for precisely this reason. It was a clusterfsck of a nightmare of epic proportions. We should avoid that. adrian