From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 21:18:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 361C2423 for ; Sat, 10 May 2014 21:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [162.217.114.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E122BB19 for ; Sat, 10 May 2014 21:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3338 invoked by uid 89); 10 May 2014 21:11:35 -0000 Received: from digitaldaemon.com (HELO MacBookPro.local) (162.217.114.50) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 10 May 2014 21:11:35 -0000 Message-ID: <536E9618.5070101@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 17:11:52 -0400 From: Jan Knepper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Evans Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market References: <20140401094044.GX44074@e-new.0x20.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 21:18:17 -0000 On 4/1/14, 6:44 AM, Tom Evans wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Lars Engels wrote: >> I'm a happy FreeBSD desktop user since 4.7. There are some edges, but I >> really like that I can can create a desktop the way _I_ want it and my >> mail client even allows me to break lines at 80 chars. Eat that, Apple >> Mail! ;-) :-) > I'm also a happy camper with FreeBSD and X. I use FreeBSD as my > primary work environment, running on a laptop. I use FreeBSD as my > HTPC, recording TV shows, transcoding content and streaming it to my > iStuff. I use FreeBSD as my primary desktop at home. > > You do need to make some smart choices about what hardware you buy > (when has it not been thus when you want to run an open OS?) The choices go for server hardware too. I have run a FreeBSD internet server on a T1 and later a 2xT1 for 14 years. When ever the hardware had to be upgraded I always checked the hardware compatibility list... > Better power management than just powerd is possible, you need to > disable any device you are using that you don't need, and tweak a few > things specific to your laptop - Alexander Motin got his laptop to > exceed his windows run time., with many tweaks. That is, if you care > about it - I don't, as I'm always docked or in a meeting room with > power. It would be great if how he accomplished that would be documented somewhere if it has not been done already. > I feel there is no need for FreeBSD to compete with Linux. The main > benefit of FreeBSD to me is that (almost) everything is documented, it > is documented in a coherent and consistent manner, there is only one > "flavour" of FreeBSD; if it is a FreeBSD system I know where the OS > conf lives, where the userland conf lives. Agreed! > To compete with Linux desktop OS would take a huge amount of polish > that is just not justified for users like me, I'm very happy with the > amount of polish that we currently have (thank you Xorg team for > NEW_XORG!). FreeBSD has enough in it that other projects (PC-BSD) can > use FreeBSD as a base and provide that polish. Agreed! -- ManiaC++ Jan Knepper The Power to Serve: www.freebsd.org But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla... www.mozilla.org Get legal - Get OpenOffice.org... www.openoffice.org Charton Heston: "Mr. Clinton, when what you say is wrong, it's a mistake. When you know it's wrong, it's a lie. Remember?"