From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Oct 30 01:13:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB687A208D2 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 01:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D63A1966 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 01:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.241] (helo=rmm6prod02.runbox.com) by bars.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZryFV-0003Cg-MC; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 02:12:57 +0100 Received: from mail by rmm6prod02.runbox.com with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ZryFV-0003N7-Lb; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 02:12:57 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (846156)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Fri, 30 Oct 2015 01:12:57 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" Reply-To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com To: "John-Mark Gurney" CC: "Lyndon Nerenberg" , "freebsd-current Current" Subject: Re: Depreciate and remove gbde Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:12:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: <20151029232359.GQ65715@funkthat.com> Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 01:13:11 -0000 On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:24:00 -0700, John-Mark Gurney wro= te: > Lyndon Nerenberg wrote this message on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 19:06 -0700: > > On Oct 24, 2015, at 12:06 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > >=20 > > > The thing I like most about encryption is that when I RMA a bad > > > drive, I don't have to worry about my data leaking if I am unable > > > to overwrite all the data... > >=20 > > You are optimistic if you believe that. We ($WORK) factor the cost of = DOA/warranty drives into our operational budget. They never get RMAed. We= drill them when they die. >=20 > Being a personal user, and having close to a 10% RMA rate on recent > hard drives, that would be a bit costly... >=20 > I consider a HD defective if it's under waranty and it's performance > drops below 80% of new, i.e. 130MB/sec normal sequential write drops > below 100MB/sec.. >=20 > The weekest point is the passphrase/passfile protecting the master > key... In my case, I use a random passfile for these drives... If > someone is able to break the passfile, or the AES-256 encryption, then > they must really want my data... It'd be easier, even for governments, > to do a black bag job than recover partial data (it's one drive of a > RAIDZ array)... >=20 > --=20 > John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 >=20 > "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" FWIW I've several WD eide that corrupt with twed0... fix them with dosdlg.exe on floppy (long test, an hour...) and they work fine as primary eide drives a long while thereafter (not secondary on twed0...)=20=20=20 in case that saves anyone some time/money...=