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Date:      Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:18:56 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
Cc:        bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>, "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ntpd vs ntpdate with no hardware clock
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On Sun, Jul 7, 2024, 11:16=E2=80=AFAM Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wr=
ote:

> I created fakertc for my rpi4.
>
> https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/fakertc/
>
> Saves the time on shutdown and sets it back early at boot.
>
> Plus I use ntpdate together with ntpd. Works fine.
>

Curious why the root mod time isn't firing... it whould alrwady do that

Warner

Regards,
> Ronald
>
> *Van:* bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
> *Datum:* 7 juli 2024 18:01
> *Aan:* freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
> *Onderwerp:* ntpd vs ntpdate with no hardware clock
>
> Just tried using ntpd with a fresh 14.1 installation on a Pi4.
> Near as I can tell, ntpd reports a failure due to the clock
> being off by too much, even if it's set manually to within
> a minute before reboot. Probably that's caused by the lack
> of a hardware clock on the Pi4, linux has a bodge called
> fake-hwclock. Is there an equivalent workaround for FreeBSD?
>
> In the meantime ntpdate seems to work, though deprecated
>
> Thanks for reading,
>
> bob prohaska
>
>
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>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 7, 2024, 11:16=E2=80=AFAM Ronald Klop &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:ronald-lists@klop.ws">ronald-lists@klop.ws</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I created fakertc for my rpi4=
.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/f=
akertc/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.freshports.org/sy=
sutils/fakertc/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Saves the time on shutdown and=
 sets it back early at boot.</div><div><br></div><div>Plus I use ntpdate to=
gether with ntpd. Works fine.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Curious why the root mod time isn&#39=
;t firing... it whould alrwady do that</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Warner=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Reg=
ards,</div><div>Ronald</div><div><br><p><small><strong>Van:</strong> bob pr=
ohaska &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fbsd@www.zefox.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">fbsd@www.zefox.net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Datum:</strong> 7 juli 202=
4 18:01<br><strong>Aan:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:freebsd-arm@freebsd.org"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">freebsd-arm@freebsd.org</a><br><stron=
g>Onderwerp:</strong> ntpd vs ntpdate with no hardware clock<br></small></p=
><blockquote style=3D"margin-left:5px;border-left:3px solid #ccc;margin-rig=
ht:0px;padding-left:5px"><div id=3D"m_-3271010977458805280P">
<div id=3D"m_-3271010977458805280P.P">Just tried using ntpd with a fresh 14=
.1 installation on a Pi4.<br>
Near as I can tell, ntpd reports a failure due to the clock<br>
being off by too much, even if it&#39;s set manually to within<br>
a minute before reboot. Probably that&#39;s caused by the lack<br>
of a hardware clock on the Pi4, linux has a bodge called<br>
fake-hwclock. Is there an equivalent workaround for FreeBSD?<br>
<br>
In the meantime ntpdate seems to work, though deprecated<br>
<br>
Thanks for reading,<br>
<br>
bob prohaska<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<hr>
</div>
</blockquote><br><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div>

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