From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:36:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55BE1065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: from poshta.pknet.net (poshta.pknet.net [216.241.167.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A3B8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 305 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jan 2012 14:36:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO pop.pknet.net) (127.0.0.1) by poshta.pknet.net with ESMTP; 10 Jan 2012 14:36:12 -0000 Received: from 74.63.162.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdq@peterk.org) by pop.pknet.net with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:36:12 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> <4F0C0EFC.401@nagual.nl> <8662gjrdqd.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> <4F0C2B44.7050408@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:36:12 -0700 From: "Peter" To: "Alejandro Imass" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Eric Masson , Dick Hoogendijk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:36:14 -0000 > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >> Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef: >> >>> Dick Hoogendijk  writes: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>>> As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. >>> >>> *You* think it's stupid. >> >> Yes, as I wrote: "stupid imo" >> But thanks again for your reply. You may be right but I still feel it's >> better to *have* the pache module and disable it than to *have to* use >> ports >> just to get it. >> > > IMO it's stupid as well and I second Dick's opinion. The module > doesn't hurt anyone, and reduces confusion. I think that PHP is still > more heavily deployed on mod_php than on anything else. The Apache > module should be built by default unless there is a really strong > argument as to why it shouldn't. > > -- > Alejandro Imass When I do pkg_add -r php I'm supposed to install apache as a dependency to that package ? Then people will ask why apache and all its glory is installed and we'll be back to this same argument but in reverse. ]Peter[ All my stuff runs on 'cheap' hardware, so I build most items, removing crud I don't need and will never use. [portmaster, list all the dependencies, then do 'pkg_add' on the ones I made no change in 'make-config']. Lean mean serving machine vs. everything and the kitchen sink all purpose serving machine.