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([2601:8:ab80:7d6:1db2:335c:64d8:4632]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pj4sm5346808pbb.29.2015.06.14.22.34.51 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3906508C-3992-43C8-AE35-9E9AD1CC1093"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5 From: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <557E4C3D.5080602@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:34:49 -0700 Cc: Adrian Chadd , Craig Rodrigues , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , Marcel Moolenaar Message-Id: <2CFE8F01-98B8-403C-BE1F-57D6F2368BE3@gmail.com> References: <201506100127.t5A1RdX6051959@svn.freebsd.org> <20150612204309.11dd3391@kan> <20150613024916.GA98218@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1434208622.1415.57.camel@freebsd.org> <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <20150614002640.GA2746@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <557E4C3D.5080602@freebsd.org> To: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:34:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3906508C-3992-43C8-AE35-9E9AD1CC1093 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jun 14, 2015, at 20:53, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 6/14/15 10:48 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> On 13 June 2015 at 18:22, Craig Rodrigues = wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Adrian Chadd = wrote: >>>>> I guarantee that no matter what you've worked on, there's >>>>> approximately five orders of magnitude of shipping devices whose >>>>> entire storage space can be measured in 1 digit megabytes. Each = year. >>>> (And yes - there's an appreciable set of them for which freebsd = boots, >>>> runs and keeps running on them.0 >>>>=20 >>>> You can buy em too, some of them even under $60. >>>=20 >>> Can FreeBSD now not run on these systems because of libxo? >> It's a tight squeeze as it is. Running in 8MB of flash (even if it's >> compressed) is still an exercise in "what can you cut out." >>=20 >> My point isn't that it isn't running because of libxo; my point is >> that arguing about "embedded" involving "lots of storage" is woefully >> incorrect and will continue to be until those gigabytes of storage = are >> available for a penny. Which yes, I'm guessing will happen in my >> career - but it's also quite likely code bloat will continue to chase >> that upward. >=20 > do we have a WITHOUT_LIBXO option on sources? I believe we should.. +1. I would be more than happy to implement it by stubbing out the = majority of the macros to something less invasive, but it might be a bit = before I do that. Thanks, --Apple-Mail=_3906508C-3992-43C8-AE35-9E9AD1CC1093 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVfmP5AAoJEMZr5QU6S73eUGAH/A6wnFSAZXd49Tlcn73D7rW1 FyLrInmzgc8bc5Q4e6cT5xmASEwNTMZqJOv/9vydb083lsMgUssfRoZgmQch0afe gayL5OTV9D/SsVuNzgmPzpmMJGqIdepvgndfvNy7J0Op4PKfu5v/wWtC0vMcmFra RTiSR173f/GrmPTb8DaRVip/y/bNGNHuRpAs0W2HlDSH3hdxpvy9jpFn6DvqoqRI KeedfqonfPI2Hbms+H8zq60yj6k2VZwEpcsPwrHlpE8+W1jw//ZQrMbUX/FwbP/f aGVB8J/Apk8ZFIyaKH9AG238JkGOtGmbn6jRRhWshKlDzonWVdrlT9576Z08ErQ= =RyI1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_3906508C-3992-43C8-AE35-9E9AD1CC1093--