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Date:      Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:39:18 +0200
From:      Grzegorz Czaplinski <gregory@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl>
To:        Stijn Hoop <stijn@win.tue.nl>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Fonts fonts fonts
Message-ID:  <20011023013918.G60627@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl>
In-Reply-To: <20011022085452.A18806@pcwin002.win.tue.nl>; from stijn@win.tue.nl on Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:54:52AM %2B0200
References:  <200110190858.f9J8wef83074@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20011019111324.C59108@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20011021184311.A37139@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl> <20011022085452.A18806@pcwin002.win.tue.nl>

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On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:54:52AM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> Hi,
Hi, thanks for the answer. ;>

> On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 06:43:11PM +0200, Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 11:13:24AM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> > [snip] 
> > > Then install the port x11-fonts/webfonts - you'll find most sites
> > > will look much better after that.
> > > 
> > > For best results, grab more TTF fonts from a Windows machine [1],
> > > install them, and ditch all 75dpi/100dpi fontpaths.
> > 
> > Stijn,
> > sorry for the problem, but maybe you clould answer my question. ;)
> > If not I will ask on questions.
> 
> No problem, but most of the time it's better to still CC: questions
> because then your question & my answer get archived for others.
>
Well, right, good point.

> > You advised someone to install "x11-fonts/webfonts" and I did that, but
> > I can't get it working. The installation process went as it should, but
> > when I start my X server I get such message:
> 
> > failed to set default font path '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts'
> > Fatal server error:
> > could not open default font 'fixed'
> > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
> > the full server output, not just the last messages
> > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
> > [1]  + exit 1     startx
> > 
> > My /etc/XF86Config has such paths set:
> > Section "Files"
> >    RgbPath    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType"
> >    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Well, I can't figure out what "default font 'fixed'" is. 
> 
> It is part of the default set of fonts that get installed when you install X.
> It should be defined in a file called 'fonts.alias' in the miscellaneous
> fonts directory, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc.
> 
> On my system I have this:
> 
> [stijn@pcwin002] <~> grep ^fixed /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias 
> fixed        -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
>
The same output on my side. Quite strange, it can't find this.

> If you didn't mess with this or the other default font paths, then either your
> install of XFree86 is broken, or you installed the
> XFree86-4-{server,libraries,clients} ports/packages without installing the
> corresponding font port, x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontDefaultBitmaps.
> In either case, reinstalling that last port should help, but it may not
> be the correct solution.
>
No, I didn't install  XFree86-4. I have  XFree86, version 3.
Anyway I think I have just solved the problem. I had a closer look at the
links you provided, and there was an advice to add such line in 
/etc/XF86Config:
		FontPath   "unix/:7101" 
To make TrueType available, xfstt must be run. I commented out my
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/webfonts line in /etc/XF86Config, started
X'es and found much more fonts in my netscape than there were prior
adding the above line. That works for me, but I can't change the size of
some of the fonts. The default size is 0. Is that OK?
I can't still run X'es with webfonts support. I also found that 
xfstt, by default looks into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType, but not
into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts. Forcing it with --dir /path/to/\
webfonts does not make any difference. Error message is as previously.
Maybe I should upgrade my X'es to the newer version? 

> > > For best results, grab more TTF fonts from a Windows machine [1],
> > > install them, and ditch all 75dpi/100dpi fontpaths.
> > And how to ditch all 75dpi/100dpi fontpaths?
> 
> Just remove them from your font path. Make sure you test this using
> xset(1) before you do this permanently in your XF86Config file.
> 
> If you make sure you have lines like the following in your .Xdefaults:
> 
> XTerm*Font: fixed
> *Font: -microsoft-tahoma-medium-r-normal--12-120-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1
> 
> (where you can of course choose other fonts if you want to), most
> X applications will use some other font than the default 'fixed' (with
> the exception of xterm, where proportional fonts don't work as well).
A ha, now I understand. Thanks for the help again.
Best regards,
	gregory
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