From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 16:48:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A220616A41F for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACAB43D4C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:48:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Xqjyub6DPOfVXvAYpYPlDwRirddrwTZHn6zijZEHVACZuWhkZUysXdtI1G6uGwFk; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.149.244] (helo=kittycat) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ew0Bj-0006Qt-2W; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:48:07 -0500 Message-ID: <038301c6153c$7bb246e0$1225a8c0@kittycat> From: "jdow" To: , "David Banning" References: <20060109161408.21651.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:48:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120d946e384bfc0e9a43de2b16ecb8ad7d01090e56e9cc72b3a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.149.244 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:48:15 -0000 From: "Danial Thom" > --- jdow wrote: > >> From: "David Banning" >> >> > Thanks for the response, Robert. I know tmda >> and such services anger >> > some people. I also find other people who >> ask me how they can get >> > such a service, only because spam is so >> difficult to block. I guess it >> > depends on how important email is to you. I >> would never ask a question >> > on this board and expect people to confirm, >> but in business I find it >> > helpful. I compare it to the benefit vs >> hassle of voice mail; some who >> > must leave messages hate it, but I find both >> voice mail and tmda >> > services actuals stops certain types of calls >> or email that I do not >> > -want-. >> >> I simply place tmda challenge addresses into my >> /dev/null list and never >> see the problem again. I treat it like spam. >> And I consider it to be >> spam. So "pfft" I make it gone. >> >> {^_^} Joanne > > I'm of the opposite thinking. I'd rather sort > through a bunch of spam everyday rather than miss > 1 important message. If I miss 1 inquiry it could > cost me 1000s of dollars. Spam is an annoyance, > nothing more. There is no sense cutting off your > nose to spite your face. > > People with challenge systems crack me up. They > wonder why they don't get their receipts when > they order things, or why they miss important > automated correspondence about their orders. Spam I sort through. With SpamAssassin scoring it's easy to find the low scores and concentrate on them. But somebody arrogant enough to spam me with a challenge for a message to a mailing list ends up on my procmail /dev/null rules. (I use fetchmail to grab mail and procmail to feed it to /var/spool/mail/ with stops along the way for SpamAssassin, ClamAv, and some random cleverness.) {^_^} Challenges are as bad as the spam they try to prevent.