Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:48:23 -0000 From: james huckle <james@xch.net> To: "'Christopher Martin at Home'" <psycho@keyworld.net>, "'FreeBSD Newbie Submission'" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: FW: Email [was: Squid will that be fried ?] Message-ID: <4B5AD1A1DC97D1118E720060976D80F40DE0@msx.xch.net>
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Chris, I couldn't agree more with your comments about an apparent lack of software design discipline. With the exponential growth in the power of even a home system, programmers can become lazy thinking and slack in code optimisation (I know I do at times). 6-7 years ago you could have run an office on a couple of 286's with 10M drives and 256K (woo!) of memory. Todays 'modern' apps seem to just about the same (accounts, spreadsheet, fax etc) with a machine that makes the Apollo missions look a bit hobbyist ;) When it really matters, do you need 'real time' spell checking? Sure I use these products (sending this using Outlook and Exchange Server), but I use vi AND Pagemill to write webpages, Outlook/Eudora/etc AND command line 'mail'. Perhaps we should start adding "Get Vi/Emacs/Joe now' on our webpages? :) As for standards - MS are the standard ;) James > ---------- > From: Christopher Martin at Home[SMTP:psycho@keyworld.net] > Sent: 27 March 1998 11:11 > To: Sue Blake; james huckle > Cc: 'FreeBSD Newbie Submission' > Subject: Re: FW: Email [was: Squid will that be fried ?] > > Is there a lobby group of users out there to ensure certain basic > standards > are adhered to? > > I think this is a quality issue. > > ISO defines quality as suitability for the job. > > You dinna buy a Rolls Royce for delivering furniture. > > Same with software. > > Unfortunately, I thnk software quality has been degrading through poor > programming discipline > and sheer uunscrupulous marketing and business practices resulting in > closed system engineering. > > I am all in favour of a good idea, but I find extra mouse clicks a > real > pain... > > Shall we form a lobby group? > > Chris > > ---------- > > From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> > > To: james huckle <james@xch.net> > > Cc: 'FreeBSD Newbie Submission' <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> > > Subject: Re: FW: Email [was: Squid will that be fried ?] > > Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 4:56 PM > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:23:45PM -0000, james huckle wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm get a little sick of all this MS bashing. Sure, the product > IMHO > > > usually sucks and is bug ridden but people buy it and people have > to > > > support it. People like pretty windows to type into and will use > these > > > products at the expense of resilience. > > > > I don't think the thrust of these software complaints is necessarily > > anti-microsoft only. Our issue is the particular software and what > it > does. > > > > Claris, for example, produces software which blatently disregards > standards > > and encourages their customers to believe they're doing the right > thing. > > I find this approach reprehensible, no matter which company does it. > > I don't like paying any software company to make me look a fool. > > Many different companies have tried. > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > -*Sue*- > > > > find / -name "*.conf" |more > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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