From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 4 5:39: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AE137B400 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org [64.239.180.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DA443E4A for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84Ccm183246; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org) Message-Id: <200209041238.g84Ccm183246@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Terry Lambert Cc: "Neal E. Westfall" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 05:38:43 -0700 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: >> So then would it be correct to classify you as a monist? It seems >> that you and Dave are actually on the same wavelength after all! >> I know, I know, he's a dualist, but considering the fact that he >> thinks everything is just one big dance, he's ultimately a monist. >> Everything just "is." > > I would say that Dave is a monist, or has, at least, "demonstrated > monist tendencies". Oh oh, I'm being classified. ;) >> The problem with analogies is that sometimes they prove too much. Have >> you ever met the Programmer? > There's a programmer? 8-). Yeah there is. Er, but you have to be able to stop the dream and look behind the curtain to see the Being. ;) > The rationalist view is that, given two explanations which fit > the facts, the simpler one is the correct one. So you get 50% of your explanations right? ;) >> > So you will change the rule, or you will be removed from the conflict >> > situation, or you will remove yourself from the conflict situation. >> > No matter what you do (or the actual outcome), the conflict will be >> > resolved to the satisfaction of the society. >> >> Yes, but this is all beside the point. It is purely descriptive. >> To what ends *should* society be seeking? > > IMO? The advancement of human knowledge. Noble, but how do you know this isn't misguided? ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message