From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 7 21:51:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA18462 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:51:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat) Received: from obie.softweyr.ml.org ([199.104.124.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA18457 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:51:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@xmission.com) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.ml.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA00697; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710080453.WAA00697@obie.softweyr.ml.org> From: Wes Peters To: Peter Dufault CC: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Digital, Intel, Silicon Graphics (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199710072100.RAA15962@hda.hda.com> References: <199710072100.RAA15962@hda.hda.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Dufault writes: > ----- Forwarded message from John C Green Jr ----- > > Can anyone comment on this that was sent to the private > alliant-alumni list in the wake of the SGI loss and Dec's > apparent readiness to dump Alpha: > > > Unix has stalled with an install rate of under 1 Million > > boxes per year; it was as many as 720K boxes in 1993. Wintel > > will ship about 83 Million this year up substantially from > > last year. Windows/NT overtook all Unixes combined several > > quarters ago in boxes shipped. > > I'll grant the boxes shipped part, since the Internet OS's don't > ship in boxes. > > Are there any remotely hard numbers about FreeBSD, NetBSD, > OpenBSD and Linux? Are there any remotely hard numbers about Solaris (any version), HP/UX, AIX, or even WinNT? Nope? Pretty hard to tell if the market has stalled, isn't it? Think this guy included *BSD, Linux, or even SCO shipments? Or was he just counting "boxes" from the big UNIX guys? And, exactly what is UNIX? Should the millions of licenses for VxWorks, QNX, LynxOS, and other UNIX-like embedded systems count? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com