From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 6 17:12:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEAA1065674 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 607288FC14 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Sep 2011 17:12:49 -0000 Received: from f055155210.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO apollo.emma.line.org) [78.55.155.210] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 06 Sep 2011 19:12:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19F1sEHZG5FBr2N8wwheUgMC/CHnxZSuqxbNi8njT CCEdtAinhZ/InL Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20F723CE28 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E66548F.8090002@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:12:47 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <201109050933.p859XEbP004874@fire.js.berklix.net> <4E64C35A.50004@FreeBSD.org> <4E654272.2050104@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <4E654272.2050104@aldan.algebra.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Community's opinion (Re: Re: sysutils/cfs_ X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:12:52 -0000 Am 05.09.2011 23:43, schrieb Mikhail T.: > On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Doug Barton wrote: >>>> It is not responsible to threaten to remove ports without warning >>>> between releases for non urgent reasons. >> We understand that this is your perspective, however the community in >> general has a different idea. > > Well, several committers are on (recent) record agreeing with Julian and > myself. > > Yet, the "community", supposedly, feels different. Can we ask, just what > that nameless "community" is, and how do we know its opinion? > > Has there been a vote? What were the results? Were they overwhelming to > one side, or close? And what, exactly, are our bylaws and procedures for > when there is no consensus? Thanks! Yours, If you want anyone to accept the answers, you need those who make decisions based on those answers, agree on the questions first, so that they are unbiassed, offer alternatives, and are non-interdependent.