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Date:      Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:41:14 -0500
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        Bram Moolenaar <Bram@moolenaar.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD GNOME Users <gnome@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Build of Mozilla failed
Message-ID:  <1074883274.768.58.camel@gyros>
In-Reply-To: <200401231034.i0NAYq0b001419@moolenaar.net>
References:  <200401231034.i0NAYq0b001419@moolenaar.net>

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On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 05:34, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
>=20
> > On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 16:15, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> > > I tried to build Mozilla 1.6 with the port in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.
> > > This failed with this message:
> > >=3D20
> > > checking for gmake... /usr/local/bin/gmake
> > > configure: error: GNU Make 3.78 or higher is required to build Mozill=
a.
> > > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D>  Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.
> > > Please report the problem to gnome@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attac=
h th=3D
> > e
> > > "/usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/config.log" including the output=
 of =3D
> > the
> > > failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provid=
e an
> > > overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/d=
b/pk=3D
> > g`).
> > > *** Error code 1
> > >=3D20
> > > Looks like a dependency is missing.  I build /usr/ports/devel/gmake
> > > (version 3.80) and then it continued.
> >=20
> > Running portupgrade -ra before installing new ports can really help
> > eliminate problems like this.  Or, I've been told, using portinstall -N
> > <portname> when installing new ports also takes care of problems such a=
s
> > this.
>=20
> It's also a wonderful way of messing up your system in an uncontrolled
> way.  And it takes many hours to run.  I'm already experiencing lots of
> trouble from port dependencies.  There's just too many of them!  I once
> experienced installing a seemingly harmless port started building a new
> gcc...  Took half a day to complete.

That's true.  There are also ports like pkg_cutleaves that can help you
prune unused packages from your system.

>=20
> > > % uname -a
> > > FreeBSD masaka.moolenaar.net 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #1: Mon =
Oct =3D
> > 27 21:44:22 CET 2003     mool@masaka.moolenaar.net:/usr/src/sys/compile=
/MAS=3D
> > AKA  i386
> > >=3D20
> > > BTW: It's not easy to decide which version to build.  Isn't there som=
e
> > > documentation about what the advantages of each version are?  Esp. fo=
r
> > > the Linux versions.
> >=20
> > The mozilla* ports themselves are pretty straightforward.  mozilla is
> > the latest stable release whereas mozilla-devel is the latest
> > bleeding-edge release (currently obsolete until 1.7a comes out).  These
> > are native FreeBSD browsers, and as such, may not support all of the
> > plug-ins that their Linux counterparts do.
> >=20
> > Therefore, if you need some of the more advanced Linux plug-ins with
> > your browser, you should consider installing the Linux versions of
> > Mozilla or Netscape 7.
>=20
> % ls /usr/ports/www | grep mozilla
> flashplugin-mozilla
> flashplugin-mozilla-devel
> linux-mozilla
> linux-mozilla-devel
> linux-mozillafirebird
> linux-mozillafirebird-el
> mozilla
> mozilla-bonobo
> mozilla-devel
> mozilla-devel-gtk2
> mozilla-firebird
> mozilla-gtk2
>=20
> That raises these questions:
>=20
> - What is the difference between mozilla-devel and mozillafirebird?

Firebird is the newer, more polished browser built from the Mozilla
tree.  It aims to replace Netscape/Mozilla as the front-end browser
piece.  Have a look at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird.

> - I have some trouble with the ordinary mozilla, will this be solved by
>   installing mozilla-devel or mozillafirebird?

Not sure.  What problems?

> - What are the -gtk2 and -bonobo versions?

The gtk2 version is needed for building gtk2-based browsers like galeon2
and epiphany which require Mozilla as a base.  mozilla-bonobo is a
Mozilla plug-in that enables one to embed bonobo controls into Mozilla
(e.g. ggv, gpdf, gnumeric, etc.).

>   Are they better?
> - What is the "-el" version?

I have no idea.  gnome@ doesn't maintain the Linux versions.

> - Do I have to try them all out to be able to decide what works for me?

Or ask others.  I use galeon2 as my primary browser, and only bring up
Firebird for certain apps.  This means I also have mozilla-gtk2
installed.

> - If I do that, can they exist next to each other or do I need to
>   uninstall before trying out another one?

All of them can coexist.

>=20
> Would be very nice if there is a page on www.freebsd.org that explains
> all this.

Perhaps this is something we can add if someone steps up to write some
content.

>=20
> I already discovered that flashplugin-mozilla stinks.  And it appears to
> be slow.  I went back to my Netscape 7.1 (linux version) for now.  But I
> can't manage to make Java work with that one, while it does work with
> mozilla (native).

You may want to look at the flashpluginwrapper for the native Mozilla.=20
This will require 4.9 or better (and with 4.X, you'll need a base OS
patch as well).

Joe

>=20
> Sigh.  Why is it so difficult to get a reasonably working system...
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