From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 17 15:31:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA26748 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA26742 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05703; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:29:51 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607172229.PAA05703@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: IDE To: e8917523@antares.linf.unb.br (Daniel C. Sobral) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:29:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9607171231.AA25214@antares.linf.unb.br> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at Jul 17, 96 08:32:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Are you not in the US? > > *I* am not. Does this mean I'm not relevant? I thought FreeBSD took > outside US customers seriously. It has to do with his reference frame, not preferential market treatment. > > IDE mainboards still only support 2 devices, which is not enough IDE > > devices for many folks. > > You haven't been using IDE lately, right? Most mainboards, specially > Pentium ones, now comes with primary _and_ secondary IDE builtin. That's > four devices. Do they use one of the two popular non-buggy IDE chipsets, or do they use one of the three popular buggy ones? If you have to replace the controller, it's going to cost you to use either interface. > And the $60 secondary IDE you mentioned costed me $25. Actually, it's a > primary and secondary IDE board. Is this the one wir without the buffers? If without, then you will have to "dumb-down" you machine to make it work. > I'd suggest stopping this non-sense about prices. I'm sure most people > here (who doesn't have SCSI) would buy SCSI devices if they could. And > even if that was not the case, that's simply no excuse for lame drivers. The excuse for lame IDE drivers is that people who have IDE devices don't write many drivers... or they wouldn't be lame. Anyone with hardware who is not happy with the hardware support they are getting should feel free to code up replacements. I personally do not run IDE, nor will I buy IDE simply to enable me to write drivers to enable someone else to run it. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.