From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue May 22 11:59:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD3BEF2C16; Tue, 22 May 2018 11:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se) Received: from mail.daemonic.se (mail.daemonic.se [IPv6:2607:f740:d:20::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 529AE70F64; Tue, 22 May 2018 11:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se) Received: from cid.daemonic.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40qvM454B4zDhTS; Tue, 22 May 2018 11:59:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=daemonic.se; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-language:content-type :content-type:in-reply-to:mime-version:user-agent:date:date :message-id:from:from:references:subject:subject:received :received; s=20151023; t=1526990351; bh=jSXMn4UhJ+IXPvImwO+zvUOI YJFozcM7it9qT19nyos=; b=KQQnrmkScV+mOOX2Wo/lIYeHE7swFU3pYmAv1Cnd Q7x+DcOXVwKagt2+gUEV+rqUmw4t8W9Xh2ZzFRvGAf2FW3HLWE3Hj5gN9nIjMH/A x5xJeFS2VlX7uB8S4KKfCdeEZJXjK29c3eK0fjuT/dsu0eBOe4Y3MgbCWFE58k10 kvI= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daemonic.se Received: from mail.daemonic.se ([127.0.0.1]) (using TLS with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) by cid.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10587) with ESMTPS id s3CxXKxMHyWB; Tue, 22 May 2018 11:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from garnet.daemonic.se (host-90-233-150-251.mobileonline.telia.com [90.233.150.251]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 40qvM22R3wzDhBg; Tue, 22 May 2018 11:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver To: dpolyg , Andreas Nilsson , Johannes Lundberg Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "K. Macy" , Rozhuk Ivan , Oliver Pinter , Current FreeBSD , Steve Kargl , Warner Losh References: <20180518193009.GA88432@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20180520164011.GA6276@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <88843bfb-34de-382c-9409-83f9ad54c8c4@daemonic.se> <20180521024050.0857a787@gmail.com> <20180521170728.GA14025@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20180522011543.3f621882@gmail.com> <20180521224927.GA9925@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <368b7106-d9c9-c860-cc00-54a45a07d34c@gmail.com> From: Niclas Zeising Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 13:58:54 +0200 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <368b7106-d9c9-c860-cc00-54a45a07d34c@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 22 May 2018 15:11:20 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 11:59:16 -0000 On 05/22/18 13:47, dpolyg wrote: > I have one comment regarding usage of the drm2 on a "legacy" hardware. > Excuse me in advance if I misunderstand something. > For the last 2-3 years I'm playing with devices such as small form=20 > factor PCs from Shuttle: > http://global.shuttle.com/products/productsList?categoryId=3D69 > or from Gigabyte: > https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Mini-PcBarebone > or Intel "NUC"s. > To my experience drm-next doesn't work on lower price (Celeron/Atom)=20 > models. Do I missing something? > Here is concrete example: > I have a Shuttle DS47:=20 > http://global.shuttle.com/main/productsDetail?productId=3D1718 > running FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE and drm2.ko loaded + Xorg + compton. > Having that I made a box with a voice control and ability to make a SIP= =20 > video call to it from a smartphone (WebRTC) (imagine "Amazon Show"=20 > powered by stock FeeBSD) but I never install any drm-next on it. Stock=20 > amd64 kernel used. No ports compiled. Only "pkg install ..." + custom=20 > code as the most front end. > After reading this thread I tried to compile drm-next on my DS47 box: >=20 > root@ShuttleD47:/usr/ports/graphics/drm-next-kmod # uname -a > FreeBSD ShuttleD47 11.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: Tue Ma= y=20 > =C2=A08 05:21:56 UTC 2018=20 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC=C2=A0 a= md64 > root@ShuttleD47:/usr/ports/graphics/drm-next-kmod # make > =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0 drm-next-kmod-4.11.g20180505_1 not supported on 10.x o= r older, no=20 > kernel > support. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-next-kmod >=20 > Why drm-next thinks it lives on a 10.x kernel or older? > Is such usage case already considered as legacy? > Is this hardware supported by drm-next? > https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Mini-Computers/zgbs/ele= ctronics/13896591011=20 >=20 That is most likely a typo, or at least not as good as it should be.=20 drm-stable-kmod and drm-next-kmod are supported on CURRENT and will be=20 supported on FreeBSD 11.2 (it's supported in stable right now). Older=20 releases will, however, not be supported. But they still have drm2, I=20 will not remove any drivers from releases or from STABLE. Regards --=20 Niclas