From owner-freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 20 02:59:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88003536 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.g.webster@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A0D8FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hq7so1909580wib.1 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:59:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:to:subject:references:date:cc:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:organization:message-id:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=GK1Y86QQzbJ3t1eU4qKO541ITIlBAccmZYPflvMRGfw=; b=VsKOHJwgJn7iwubP7yXOlOaDL/cM7YiryydRFh5mL1J4iCfqmQ43hSKvFoSZ7RiFce 45F2FVA4nrrRwpHbuv3zncZbgMRaDI839fu5wqLpxbK35/6ZhPZZ9h+9fQM/s3prl2rt 7zYQ5cN91wuIh+W2WTBrfwryf8XtWk+a+oZPnfh/vytd9sUOVOwmNoP7zIa626UIQRuf P5Ae9NlBAKYwBtF5mNB1VXRAAtvNyROnx5y1owc1PpurZ214ZIzj24M0wcj6vfoLeSWJ akQ8VzaoG4Ig2zImSk74um4s2phhXoeoVe22Cq3jjTihqscUPYvdnACLjZXDdagl3x+6 5Y2w== Received: by 10.216.227.137 with SMTP id d9mr1841759weq.205.1353380394827; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from box.dlink.com (host-78-149-58-39.as13285.net. [78.149.58.39]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i2sm15940596wiw.3.2012.11.19.18.59.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:59:54 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Maxim Khitrov" Subject: Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax. References: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:59:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Paul Webster" Organization: Interflective Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.11 (Win64) Cc: "freebsd-pf@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion and general questions about packet filter \(pf\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:59:56 -0000 I am not so sure there would be much more maintenance, after all after the split the only updates to the original 'pf-*' tree would be any serious security or stability updates that happen to crop up. All feature updates etc would be to the pf2-* On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:52:53 -0000, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Paul Webster > wrote: >> Good day all, >> >> I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, I >> believe the final decision was that to many users are used to the old >> style pf and an upgrade to the new syntax would cause to much confusion. >> >> There was a recent debate on ##freebsd about this issue and I was >> inclined >> to mail in and get your opinions; basically it boiled down to the >> majority >> of users wanting either: >> >> 1) To move to the newer pf and just add to releases notes what had >> happened, >> and >> 2) my own personal opinion: creating 'pf2-*' as a kernel option tree, >> basically using the newer pf syntax and allowing users to choose. >> >> I would be interested to know the feedback from you guys as to be honest >> there seems to be quite a few users who actually DO want the new style >> format and functionality that comes with. > > My vote is for option 1, but I'll also be happy with option 2 if it > costs little to maintain both versions. I'm pretty much for anything > that brings pf in sync (or close to it) with OpenBSD. > > - Max -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/