From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 4 10:20:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14992 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:20:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14987 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from eccles.salk.edu (eccles [198.202.70.120]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24913; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:20:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:20:09 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Bartol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Garrett Wollman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New boot blocks for serial console ... In-Reply-To: <38397.915473345@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Not at all. Ever heard of a padlock? > > Give me physical access to your machine, with or without a padlock, > and I'll have root on that baby before you have a chance to come back > from lunch. > > I think the original comment that there's no security without physical > security has definite merit. Thanks! >The NSA learned this decades ago! :) > Indeed, they have learned the hard way that the Laws of Physics (and the shortsightedness of human beings) put precious little restriction on what the imagination can dream up and actually implement to gain "physical access" to a given machine. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message