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Date:      Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:14:18 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <gcooper@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: fsync(2) manual and hdd write caching
Message-ID:  <AANLkTikMMB2JgSporrQA315JiB2%2BNNBysXNiao16ohs=@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20101026234036.GA17347@freebsd.org>
References:  <20101026213618.GA3013@freebsd.org> <20101027003229.00002b91@unknown> <20101026234036.GA17347@freebsd.org>

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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org> wrote=
:
> On Wed Oct 27 10, Bruce Cran wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:36:18 +0000
>> Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> > since there's a thread on freebsd-questions@ concerning fsync(2) and
>> > the fact that hdd write caching can cause this syscall to basically
>> > be a no op, could somebody please copy the BUGS section from sync(2)
>> > to fsync(2)?
>>
>> Shouldn't the BUGS section of sync(2) be removed?
>>
>> "The sync() system call may return before the buffers are completely
>> =A0 =A0 =A0flushed."
>>
>> But from
>> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/sync.html :
>>
>> "The writing, although scheduled, is not necessarily complete upon
>> return from sync()."
>>
>> That would suggest it's not actually a bug.
>
> well...you are right on the one hand. but still this should be documented=
 imo.
> how about turning BUGS into a CAVEATS section and then adding that sectio=
n to
> fsync(2)?
>
> the reason posix mentions this sync/fsync behavior is probably the fact t=
hat
> they know that this cannot be avoided. so that statement seems itself to =
be a
> caveat rather than a feature. ;)

    Just a sidenote, but that's POSIX 2004[.6?] spec, not POSIX 2008.1
(which is the most current spec -- http://www.unix.org/2008edition/ ).
I double checked and the wording didn't differ for the fsync(2) system
interface, but it could differ in others.
HTH,
-Garrett



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