From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 5 10:50: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF7837B401; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E55A43E42; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:49:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g95HnfpS001880; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 19:49:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Bruce Evans Cc: Peter Wemm , Lars Eggert , n0go013 , current , not on list - please copy Subject: Re: [ GEOM tests ] vinum drives lost In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 06 Oct 2002 02:55:26 +1000." <20021006024610.V12615-100000@gamplex.bde.org> Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 19:49:41 +0200 Message-ID: <1879.1033840181@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20021006024610.V12615-100000@gamplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes: >On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: > >> Bruce Evans wrote: >> > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> > >> > > Worst case you will have the option to use: >> > > >> > > options NOGEOM >> > > options vinum >> > >> > A NOGEOM option would be as acceptable as a NOFFS option for turning off >> > forcing of the one true file system down everyone's throats. >> >> Part of the problem there is a weakness in config that I've threatened >> to fix on more than one occasion. We do not have a way to have options >> default to on and let people turn the option off. Negative options >> ("options NOFOO") are a poor substitute. In the past, a couple of things >> were unifdefed that might have been better served as being 'default to on' >> options or drivers. > >Hmm. Negative options implemented as "negoptions FOO" would work OK for >this. Options could be defaulted to on by putting them in an included >config file, and then turned off using negoptions. This could actually decrease the size and complexity of our kernel config files considerably, just think of all the "theoretically-but-not-in-practice" options like INET. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message