From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 14 09:03:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54314106564A for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BFC8FC1B for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6E92win004835; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:03:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n6E92win004835 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1247562180; bh=xy2ngPgLc01/Q/sZGJJJCoGjH2QsUrrrLyXkgeutHZs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A5C49BC.7030907@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2014=20Jul=202009=2010:02:52=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090625)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Peter=20|CC:=20"freeb sd-questions@freebsd.org"=20|Subjec t:=20Re:=20OFFTOPIC:=20HP=20DL1xx=20vs=20IBM=20x3250=20vs=20DELL=2 0R200|References:=20<4A5B645C.2090105@aboutsupport.com>|In-Reply-T o:=20<4A5B645C.2090105@aboutsupport.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.9 5.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0 D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary= 3D"------------enigEE5048D0E324C10D62DFDFEF"; b=z+WkWELOMWpNL1A50KRzeXzb6v3ZSOaq9MpmZU7Z/uqAZsAsqHZ78UjXUTm6opHhk KCjnZnB2MRrOYXf+3L4K71iLpOukCmsCvEkPQmckrlNFkj2YP2MeZtkMJyz6avFnFX BZLE14561jzZZIgthiFU52aZ+mVG7nQ3EA1dN6vs= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A5C49BC.7030907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:02:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter References: <4A5B645C.2090105@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <4A5B645C.2090105@aboutsupport.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEE5048D0E324C10D62DFDFEF" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OFFTOPIC: HP DL1xx vs IBM x3250 vs DELL R200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:03:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEE5048D0E324C10D62DFDFEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter wrote: > Hello, >=20 > We are about to buy 1U rack mount server for the office. The server roo= m > is small and close to meeting room so we have two priorities: >=20 > 1)Good FreeBSD support. > 2) Low noise level (!) >=20 >=20 > Speed is not a priority, system load will be small. >=20 > Which one will you recommend ? >=20 >=20 >=20 > HP DL160G5 E5405 2x1GB 2x250GB NHP-SATA CD-DVD Combo 3y > carepack;Quad-Core Intel=C2=AE Xeon=C2=AE processor E5405 (2.00 GHz, 80= W, 1333MHz > FSB);Supports up to 64 GB of PC2-5300 (DDR2-667) and up to 32 GB of > PC2-6400 (DDR2-800) fully buffered DIMMs (DDR2-667) with Advanced ECC; > Two embedded NC105i PCIe Gigabit Server Adapters;Five USB ports (two > front, one internal, two rear);650W Power Supply (Non-Hot Plug, > Autoswitching);Rack (1U) >=20 > VS: >=20 > IBM x3250 M2 1 x Xeon Q3330 QuadCore 2.66GHz/1333MHz FSB Hyper > Threading with EM64T, 6MB Cache, 2x1024MB ECC DDR2, 2 x 250 GB SATA/SAS= > HDD HotSwap, OpenBay Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) Hot Swap, Integrated > RAID-1, 1x351W, DVD/CD-RW, Dual LAN 10/100/1000, 3 year on-site warrant= y >=20 > VS: >=20 > DELL=E2=84=A2 PowerEdge=E2=84=A2 R200 1=09 > Quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor X3210 2.13 GHz / 1066 MHz FSB / 8 MB SA= S > 6/i Integrated RAID Controller Card for SATA and SAS Hard Drives, > RAID 0,1 =09 > 2GB 800MHz ECC Unbuffered DDR-2 SDRAM =09 > 2 =D1=85 250GB, SATA, 3.5-inch, 7.2K RPM Hard Drive (Cabled) =09 > Slim DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive =09 > R200 PCI-E Riser Card (2 x PCI Express slots) =09 > dual embedded Broadcom=C2=AE Gigabit Ethernet NIC =09 > Sliding Rack Kit for Dell Racks (Rapid Rails)=09 >=20 >=20 > Prices are almost the same :-) >=20 > Please recommend. None of the above are going to be particularly quiet I'm afraid. The=20 main noise source in all cases will be the cooling fans, both in the PSUs= and the ones blowing air across the CPU heat sinks. They should all have= adaptive fan speed controls -- so the fans work harder when the machine gets hotter -- but the distinction in noise levels is between unbearable = and merely loud. Now, if compute performance really isn't your limiting factor, then you m= ay be able to get away with a low-wattage processor such as the Intel Atom -= - these can be operated fanless with the right sort of case design. The tr= ick is finding a supplier. Tranquil PC (http://www.tranquilpc.co.uk/) is=20 someone I've seen recommended elsewhere on FreeBSD mailing lists, and I b= elieve their systems are generally FreeBSD compatible, but I have no real confir= mation that is the case, just some hearsay on mailing lists. 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