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Date:      Wed, 14 Jul 1999 06:39:00 +0900 (JST)
From:      Noriyuki Soda <soda@sra.co.jp>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Noriyuki Soda <soda@sra.co.jp>, Jason Thorpe <thorpej@nas.nasa.gov>, "Brian F. Feldman" <green@FreeBSD.ORG>, bright@rush.net, dcs@newsguy.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, jon@oaktree.co.uk, tech-userlevel@netbsd.org
Subject:   Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2) 
Message-ID:  <199907132139.GAA14890@srapc342.sra.co.jp>
In-Reply-To: <199907132127.OAA80947@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <199907132127.OAA80947@apollo.backplane.com>

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>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:27:54 -0700 (PDT),
	Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> said:

> > That's wrong.
> > On such systems, critical server has a chance to save it's data to
> > filesystem.
> > On 4.4BSD derived systems, it cannot be guaranteed.

>     You are assuming that the situation actually occurs.  In real life,
>     it will not occur unless the critical server is running away with
>     memory.

>     I have never, ever run one of BEST's servers out of swap.  It has never
>     been an issue.

Running out of swap can be easily done by normal user privilege.
Non-overcommiting system can run important application on the system
which has a normal user, because it never lose critical data, even if
a user on the system make a mistake. (The application might stop,
but it never lose data.)

4.4BSD derived system cannot do this, and have to use different
machine for such applications.

>     And you also haven't bothered to address my other point:  In order to
>     configure a system that guarentees backing store, you need to configure
>     that system with 8x or more swap then you would a normal
>     system. 

8x or more?
That's wrong. It depends.
--
soda


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