Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:30:14 -0600 From: Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net> To: Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up Message-ID: <opr4px4op68ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20040311222643.GC338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> References: <1078967224.565.18.camel@localhost> <opr4pqvhez8ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> <20040311211702.GA338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <opr4pvbbsr8ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> <20040311213945.GB338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <opr4pwzlg78ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> <20040311222643.GC338@crom.vickiandstacey.com>
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:43 +0000, Stacey Roberts
<stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> Hi Mezz.,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
> To: To Stacey Roberts
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:05 GMT
> Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
>
>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:39:45 +0000, Stacey Roberts
>> <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Mezz.,
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
>> >To: To Stacey Roberts
>> >Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 21:29 GMT
>> >Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
>> >
>> >>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:17:03 +0000, Stacey Roberts
>> >><stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Hello Mezz..,
>> >>> Thanks for the reply.
>> >>>
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
>> >>>To: To stacey@vickiandstacey.com
>> >>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 19:53 GMT
>> >>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
>> >>>
>> >>>>Try to create a new dummy user like tester to see if your GNOME will
>> >>>>startup faster. If so, then there are something wrong in one of in
>> >>your
>> >>>>personal directory like ~/.gnome2, ~/.gconf and etc. You can remove
>> >>>>these
>> >>>>directories on your normal user and let GNOME to startup fresh.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>No need to, I already have a spare user on the box to use for this.
>> As
>> >>I
>> >>>suspected, logging in with that other user results in a fast Gnome2
>> >>>startup.
>> >>
>> >>A spare user with no GNOME personal directories? Do you mean, it does
>> >>login faster on the spare user?
>> >
>> >Yes. I often create two users that I can use, but only use one. I've
>> >never had the need to use any other than my primary user, so when this
>> >problem started last night I figured on checking to see if it happens
>> >for everyone (including root).
>> >
>> >As things turned out, both root and the other (spare) user can log in
>> >fine.
>> >
>> >Thought I should also mention that for my primary user (the account for
>> >whom the delays occur), I'd already tried the following: -
>> >
>> >1] rm -rf .g*
>> >2] rm -rf .esd*
>> >3] Ran startx
>> >4] Gnome2 starts fine
>> >5] Do nothing
>> >6] Log off
>> >7] Run startx again
>> >8] Long delay in Gnome2 startup
>> >
>> >I've done that procedure about four times now, just to make sure I
>> >wasn't going crazy.
>>
>> Umm, if it works fine on root and other users then it must be problem
>> somewhere in your primary user. So, if you reinstall GNOME and you might
>> still have the same problem. :-) Can you try do the full one? Like this:
>>
>> rm -rf .ICE* .Trash .Xauth* .gconf* .gnome* .gtk* .esd* .fonts.cache-1
>> .meta* .nau* .recent* .thumb* .xscreen*
>
> Oh.., I didn't try removing those..,
>
>>
>> Also, there have few stuff in the /var/tmp/ like this:
>>
>> gconfd-${user} mapping-${user} orbit-${user}
>>
>> So, change from ${user} to your primary user then try to remove them. I
>> don't know if it will help, but I think it's a worth shot. Also, be sure
>> to check in the top or ps to make sure one of GNOME's app exit correct
>> before you try to do the startx again. This is my last suggest what I
>> can
>> think of, before you want to reinstall GNOME.
>
> Okay.., check me on this please.., just so I know that I follow: -
>
> Here's how I see your instructions set:
>
> a] Log off Gnome2
> b] run top / ps to verify that all Gnome2 apps have exited cleanly (kill
> off any lingering Gnome2 apps still appearing in top / ps)
> c] Run rm -rf for .ICE*, .Trash, .Xauth*, .gconf*, .gnome*, .gtk*,
> .esd*, .fonts.cache-1, .meta*, .nau*, .recent*, .thumb*, & .xscree*
> d] Run rm -rf for any instances for gconfd-stacey, mapping-stacey &
> orbit-stacey in /var/tmp
> e] Run startx
>
> Let me know if I've got that procedure correct, please.
Yeah, it looks fine.
Cheers,
Mezz
> Thanks again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stacey
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mezz
>>
>> >Thanks for the reply, by the way.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Stacey
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>Mezz
>> >>
>> >>>>One more thing, make sure your hostname is working. X will startup
>> >>very
>> >>>>slow if you don't have the correct hostname. IE: fix the /etc/hosts
>> by
>> >>>>add
>> >>>>your hostname in it point on 127.0.0.1.
>> >>>
>> >>>This is not a problem.
>> >>>
>> >>>What *has* become a problem that I've noticed as well, is the fact
>> that
>> >>>even attempting to log out of Gnome2 takes almost 5 minutes now too.
>> >>>This is the time from clicking on "Actions", "Log Out".., desktop
>> locks
>> >>>up.., five minutes later, the confirmation dialogue box appears.
>> >>>Clicking on "Okay", results in the log out then proceeding as per
>> >>normal.
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>BTW: reinstall apps aren't always a solution.
>> >>>
>> >>>One would think that, but at the end of the day, I'm inclined to
>> >>>reinstall something that's broken, rather than work with something
>> that
>> >>>was "hacked back together". The fact that this machine was up and
>> >>>running well after the reinstall of Gnome back in 2002.
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks again for taking the time.
>> >>>
>> >>>Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>Stacey
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>Mezz
>> >>>>
>> >>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:07:05 +0000, Stacey Roberts
>> >>>><stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Hello,
>> >>>>> I've just had a strangely familiar problem re-occur with me
>> >>>>>tonight.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>For some reason, when I try to start gnome2 (with startx) there is
>> a
>> >>>>>very long delay before the splash thingy appears - almost 4
>> minutes.
>> >>I
>> >>>>>mentioned familiar for the simple reason that this exact problem
>> >>>>>happened to me a couple of years ago, whilst I was running
>> Gnome-1.2
>> >>(I
>> >>>>>think).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The short story of the eventual fix for me then was to reinstall
>> >>Gnome.
>> >>>>>I am now wondering if anyone is able to help me with this problem
>> now
>> >>>>>appearing now that I'm running Gnome-2.4.2.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I'll include what details I think are relevant here, but if there's
>> >>any
>> >>>>>information I can add, please let me know.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>><snip>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Like I said, if there's anything else I can offer, then let me
>> know.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Regards,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Stacey
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>>
>>
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