From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 24 19:31:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25581 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.2.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25475 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (narn-1-10.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.134.10]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.9.0) id VAA18865; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:30:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id VAA14802; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:30:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980625023007.ZM14799@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:30:07 +0000 In-Reply-To: Malartre "Re: New home page design" (Jun 24, 7:50pm) References: <19980624165018.A10393@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19980625052123.12105@welearn.com.au> <359190DD.9EFC0AE5@aei.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Malartre , Sue Blake Subject: Re: New home page design Cc: Wolfram Schneider , doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA25492 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Jun 24, 7:50pm, Malartre wrote: > Subject: Re: New home page design > Sue Blake wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:50:18PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/w/bsd.html > > > The page based on ideas from malartre and John Fieber. > > > > > > I don't know if we need the 'Getting FreeBSD', FAQ and handbook > > > buttons. Comments? > > > > I think they're handy... if I'm seeing what you're referring to. > > It's good to have all those links on the first page. I have observed a > > few difficulties though: > > > > The list box for the countries appears half way down the main body of > > text, obscuring part of the paragraph which comes before "Easy to install" > > > > The links on the left might be easier to read of they had bullets or some > > kind of separator. For example, it's hard to get the meaning when I see: > > > > ... > > Getting > > FreeBSD > > Installation > > Supported > > Hardware > > Current Releases > > Ported > > Applications > > Commercial > > Documents > > ... > > > > My browser seems to have been prevented from displaying this page > > optimally. All the text is bunched up on the left, and the entire right > > half of the browser window is glaring white space. The old page did not > > cause this to happen. > > > > On another machine, I can only see the column on the left and half of > > each line of text on the right unless I keep scrolling left and right. > > Again, this did not happen with the old page. > > > > We have discussed the cause and its simple solution a million times. > > > > Content is *the* most important consideration (and it's good), however we > > are supposed to be an organisation that has slightly higher than average > > technical competence. I'm not attracted to an operating system written by > > someone who doesn't appear to have overcome the beginner's misconception > > that HTML controls screen layout. Unless you provide me with the hardware > > that the page was designed for, you have no way of knowing what my screen > > can do or how my browser has been configured to display HTML. > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > -*Sue*- > > > I think that my and your version is broken. I really understand the > point of Sue now. After a lot of mail ;-) There is many thing I could > explain on why FreeBSD.ORG should never use something like that. > I propose a new solution. > No right and left table. No text on the first page. Except for news. > The ¾ of the FreeBSD.ORG main page is text for new user. But I think > than that text have nothing to do on the first page. *Maybe* a little > text like on the current linux.org site who explain very basic line of > the product. (check "What is Linux" on the main page, also the "more" > button). I dont like the linux.org page to :-). Just as I was going to recommend that the linux.org page was a great example of a well designed web page, along comes a critic. That's what makes this world so interesting, thes various individual tastes in things aesthetic. I think that linux.org has the right blend of color, text and buttons. The page is very easy to navigate and locate what ever you want to know about Linux. I think that would be a good page to emulate. Can well do without all the penguins on the backdrop however. Even having that much of the BSD Daemon is a bit much. Frank >If new users wants > information, they should click on that little text or on a "New User > FAQ" or a "You want to know what FreeBSD is?" button. Or a complete New > User section. > All the FreeBSD.ORG main page should be link and news. Like the > digital.com page but without java and so much graphics. And with more > links. I dont think FreeBSD.ORG is consulted by a majority of people who > dont know FreeBSD, but by FreeBSD user who need something from the > FreeBSD page. Of course, there would be a major link for new user or > people who want to know more. > > A more simple page and a concise/global view. Maybe even classified like > the yahoo! page. Yahoo! rules :-) > > Cya > Malartre > -- > -------------------------------------- > malartre@aei.ca ICQ #4224434 > www.aei.ca/~malartre/ FreeBSD-2.2.6 > -------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Malartre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message