From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 18:56:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D028016A474 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DCC13C448 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 86ADC1CC044; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:56:15 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070615185615.GA84136@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <880dece00706151014t229460b8j821cc4dea24788fe@mail.gmail.com> <440b3e930706151103n554c0671qc086671e9251e422@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <440b3e930706151103n554c0671qc086671e9251e422@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Subject: Re: Fwd: AMD deciding _now_ what to do about Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:56:15 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 02:03:39PM -0400, Ali Mashtizadeh wrote: > Hey everyone, > > This email went out on Xorg I thought it might be useful for all of us stuck > with ATI cards. We should all show our interest in AMD helping out the BSD > community as well! Just like Nvidia has been doing! "Linux strategy" -- gotta love the use of the word "strategy", like they're playing chess or Risk or Daisenryaku. Yes, because supporting an operating system involves "strategy". Not to sound rude, but I wouldn't hold your breath over the statement. Yes, *absolutely* mail them and show support for the BSDs, and tell them you'll be happy to beta test whatever they put out (as long as they have a good feedback method for reporting those bugs; not some defunct HTML form web page that sends submissions to /dev/null). I believe AMD/ATI cares about providing a good driver base (for Linux and probably the BSDs), but no matter how many customers mail them, the reality of the situation is a disappointing one: managers and executives of sorts are who have say over all of this, who decide all of this, and who ultimately make the statements on all of this. As a Texan co-worker of mine says, "too many chiefs, not enough indians". nVidia has the same "problem", for what it's worth. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |