From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 11:38:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9254016A4BF for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp11.wxs.nl (smtp11.wxs.nl [195.121.6.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B9E43F75 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akruijff@www.kruijff.org) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp11.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNB0093XT3GHQ@smtp11.wxs.nl> for advocacy@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:38:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9PIc4Eq005617; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:38:04 +0200 (CEST envelope-from akruijff@Alex.lan) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id h9PIc3Zh005616; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:38:03 +0200 (CEST envelope-from akruijff) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:38:03 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20031025054925.GA3501@igloo.linux.gr> To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-id: <20031025183803.GD4914@dds.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i References: <20031024021720.31654.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> <20031024124745.GA30536@dds.nl> <20031025054925.GA3501@igloo.linux.gr> cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Learning to Walk: A Linux User Migrates to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:38:05 -0000 On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:49:25AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2003-10-24 14:47, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > >On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 07:17:20PM -0700, peter lageotakes wrote: > >> This is the follow up (part 2) to Babe in the Woods: A > >> Linux User Migrates to FreeBSD. > >> > >> Interesting article. However I disagree with the views > >> about handbook being written at the admin. level (and > >> more). The article could be more positive. > >> > >> http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=269 > > > > I say this is prity positive considering his previous article about > > 5.0. I feel that he gives _his_ fair point of view on FreeBSD. > > Strainge that top didn' run, i didn't had this happening to me. > > This is very likely a result of more serious problems with the /dev > directory of the installation (like the missing /dev/null described in > the article). > > I'll agree that it is a rather fair article, despite my reservations > regarding the problems described. I've installed 4.8-REL a lot of times > but didn't have any of the same problems. The fact that someone else > did, which is probably unsurprising for newcomers to FreeBSD, doesn't > mean that I'm super smart or that the authors of the article are silly > either. The installation process depends on very scrutinous attention > to details whose significance isn't yet very apparent when one is a > FreeBSD newbie. This is what the documentation team is trying to help > about by writing the Handbook and the rest of the docs. > > Let's hope that the quality of the existing documentation and the future > efforts of the doc team make problematic cases like the one described in > the article less and less frequent :-) Its not just the doc team who arre responcible for the succes of FreeBSD. Its the whole team, including amoung others, the doc-team, developers, core and the users on the lists (esecialy those on questions, newbie, stable and current). -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/