From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 3 12:30:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA07666 for current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07655 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA26726; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19971003123007.53783@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:30:07 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Julian Elischer Cc: Mike Smith , Invis , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much work does running -current take? References: <199710031410.XAA00752@word.smith.net.au> <34352DAD.ABD322C@whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <34352DAD.ABD322C@whistle.com>; from Julian Elischer on Fri, Oct 03, 1997 at 10:38:53AM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Julian Elischer scribbled this message on Oct 3: > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > 1. If I install -current, will I have to do 'make worlds' or other 6 hour CPU > > > tasks often? > > > > You won't have to. You may want to. > > > > > 2. Will my system more often than not be able to boot and run most of the time? > > > i.e. I have one computer, I don't mind constant reboots, even making my own > > > code patches if necessary, but if this is something it's almost necessary > > > to have two machines for, please tell me! > > > > It can be helpful to have two systems, but things are generally better > > now than they were in terms of re-bootstrapping yourself. > > the problem is that new binaries cannot run on old machines > because there is a new system call > so everything falls over > especially /bin/sh so you can't even boot on your old kernel if > something goes wrong witf the new one. well... if you have multiple hard disks in your system, it isn't hard to fix... I'm about to do some testing of -current, and what I'm going to do is us one of the 32meg partions on the other hard drives as a -current boot, then I will just mount and symlink /usr to the place that I've done the temporary install to... then for -current testing I just boot the second hard drive.. and if problems occure, I can just go back to normal booting... note, this hasn't actually been attempted, so it's just an idea that I have floating around... and I plan on trying out this method when I test out Justin's new CAM scsi code.. -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD