From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Mar 10 9:26:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C1737BE12 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:26:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA93215; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:26:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200003101726.MAA93215@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Dennis Cc: Sheldon Hearn , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD dead? Well, not in theory... References: <200003101712.MAA12621@etinc.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:06:56 EST." <200003101712.MAA12621@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:26:05 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As long as they keep their grubbly little hands off of it, and dont let the > ciscos and uunets of the world (who both own a piece of bsdi) dictate > policy, and as long as several key developers dont go work for BSDI (they > would have already if they were going to I think)....it shouldnt be much > different. As far as I know, UUNET had to divest their equity interest in BSDI at the time that we (UUNET) went public years ago (or maybe it was when we took some VC funding.. too long ago now.) The AT&T lawsuit was still simmering at the time, and that degree of uncertainty was deemed hostile to raising money. In retrospect, UUNET probably should have kept a piece. Over the past few years, UUNET has funded BSDI to add specific features (like doing the SPARC port) but that was a conceptually simple contracting arrangement that resulted in the code being available to all BSDI users. What's interesting in all this is to consider all the various Internet embedded application "wins" that FreeBSD and BSDI have. Just the ones that I can think about off the top of my head: Juniper Networks, Mirapoint, Whistle (FreeBSD) and Ascend in the GRF platform (BSDI). There are certainly others that escape me at the moment. BSDI has a nice embedded packaging of their product, and FreeBSD has gone in that direction too with things like PicoBSD. I think there's a big potential here to vigerously pursue that high-reliablity Internet infrastructure market with the combinations of the technology. In particular, BSDI can bring the support for those "vertical" applications for OEM's that want to buy it. These are obviously just my opinions, influenced by low blood sugar, and not necessarily those of UUNET's. louie (aka louie@UU.NET) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message