From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:53:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887A316A4CE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.stack.nl (vaak.stack.nl [131.155.140.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BED843FA3 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:53:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcolz@stack.nl) Received: by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C479A1F006; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:53:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from turtle.stack.nl (turtle.stack.nl [2001:610:1108:5010:2e0:81ff:fe22:51d8]) by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5318A1F00E; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:53:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by turtle.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 333) id 0C5451CC71; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:53:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:53:54 +0100 From: Marc Olzheim To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20031104235354.GA96239@stack.nl> References: <20031104164207.GA93746@stack.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD turtle.stack.nl 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-URL: http://www.stack.nl/~marcolz/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on vaak.stack.nl X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 cc: Marc Olzheim cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: games/ptkei X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:53:59 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:04:58PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: > This is really two separate questions. > > The first is that non-maintainer updates for ports are indeed handled. > There is, however, a substantial (over 500) backlog of them. In a > volunteer project, they'll only get done as fast as the volunteers > get to them :-) For which many thanks, of course. > The second is more of a political question. There is a procedure > for removing maintainers who no longer show an interest in FreeBSD -- > in fact, this was done fairly recently for a number of folks who > presumably no longer have time to work on things. But again, > to respect the fact that we really do want to make maintaining > ports as little hassle as possible, this is something that should > only be done after a long period of inactivity IMHO. Would more than 1 year classify ? I sent the PR because the current entry does not work with the new python anymore, but there have been new versions of this program for a longer period of time. > Having said all that, perhaps you can get someone to commit your > PR with a "maintainer timeout" annotation. Well, since the maintainer does not reply to mail anymore, I'm volunteering to take this one over, because I use the port myself... > But believe me, there's a number of people (including me) who > are trying to whittle down this huge backlog. Although progress > is being made, further patience is still called for. This was not an attack to anyone, just my point of view. Another piece of software I maintain is port-maintained by some one else and my PR for an update did not have effect either. After the port-maintainer sent a PR after that one, it was handled... (games/eif) Knowing that you should be able to rely on a large group of users to do stuff for you, I'd rather have me as maintainer for this port than someone who doesn't read mail anymore... Just a bit frustrated... ;-/ Zlo