From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Sep 9 13:45:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC25BD29DC for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E27FD5E0 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u89DlIxu071693 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 06:47:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) To: In-Reply-To: <6C60C067-111C-4454-8DA9-6A72F40F602D@sarenet.es> References: <6C60C067-111C-4454-8DA9-6A72F40F602D@sarenet.es> From: "Chris H" Subject: Re: vt console driver and default vga mode: breaking POLA Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 06:47:26 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: udns.ultimatedns.net; Sender-ip: 127.0.0.1; Sender-helo: ultimatedns.net; ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 13:45:15 -0000 On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 11:59:45 +0200 Borja Marcos wrote > Hi > > I apologise for being late on this, but I just noticed. The new vt console > driver has a very important change in behavior, replacing the ancient > “BIOS” text mode with a graphic VGA mode. > > I don’t know how many people relies on BIOS serial redirection for > consoles, but at least HP’s iLO system offers the possibility of accessing > the console through a ssh connection instead of requiring a bloated Java > console, and it’s a very convenient feature. But it only works in pure > “BIOS text mode” (the old sc console driver used this mode as a default). > > I would rather change the default behavior of vt to hw.vga.textmode=1 so that > its behavior mimics the old sc driver. > > I know the current fad is to hide boot messages with panda bears and > beautiful butterflies revolving around them, but boot messages are critical > when diagnosing problems. LOL > > I should have chimed in earlier, I know. But anyway it’s a very minor > change. > > > > > What do you think? +1 It might also be worth mentioning that (most?) NVIDIA card users users will also suffer from this (non text mode). > > > > > Borja. > --Chris