From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 3 19:59:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F514C8E; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@vnode.se) Received: from mail.vnode.se (mail.vnode.se [212.247.52.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAB224A1; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.vnode.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vnode.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C43EE3F07A; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:52:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vnode.se Received: from mail.vnode.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.vnode.se (mail.vnode.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JwuHeI-sXsCP; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from devbox.vnode.local (unknown [83.223.1.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.vnode.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51B00E3F079; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:52:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:52:41 +0200 From: Joel Dahl To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: svn commit: r254273 - in head: . include lib lib/libc/iconv lib/libiconv_compat lib/libkiconv share/mk sys/sys tools/build/mk Message-ID: <20130903195241.GA93218@devbox.vnode.local> References: <201308130715.r7D7F1nu076335@svn.freebsd.org> <3887D7C7-D766-40DF-B154-D05768B86AA6@FreeBSD.org> <20130818195304.GA81160@devbox.vnode.local> <20130818224244.GA59141@stack.nl> <52114FED.3010106@wemm.org> <20130822155835.GA52789@devbox.vnode.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130822155835.GA52789@devbox.vnode.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, Jilles Tjoelker , Peter Wemm , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Dimitry Andric , gabor@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:59:47 -0000 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 05:58:35PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 03:51:25PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > On 8/18/13 3:42 PM, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 09:53:04PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > > >> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:34:30AM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > > >>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 09:15, Peter Wemm wrote: > > >>>> Author: peter > > >>>> Date: Tue Aug 13 07:15:01 2013 > > >>>> New Revision: 254273 > > >>>> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/254273 > > > > > >>>> Log: > > >>>> The iconv in libc did two things - implement the standard APIs, the GNU > > >>>> extensions and also tried to be link time compatible with ports libiconv. > > >>>> This splits that functionality and enables the parts that shouldn't > > >>>> interfere with the port by default. > > > > > >>>> WITH_ICONV (now on by default) - adds iconv.h, iconv_open(3) etc. > > >>>> WITH_LIBICONV_COMPAT (off by default) adds the libiconv_open etc API, linker > > >>>> symbols and even a stub libiconv.so.3 that are good enough to be able > > >>>> to 'pkg delete -f libiconv' on a running system and reasonably expect it > > >>>> to work. > > > > > >>>> I have tortured many machines over the last few days to try and reduce > > >>>> the possibilities of foot-shooting as much as I can. I've successfully > > >>>> recompiled to enable and disable the libiconv_compat modes, ports that use > > >>>> libiconv alongside system iconv etc. If you don't enable the > > >>>> WITH_LIBICONV_COMPAT switch, they don't share symbol space. > > > > > >>>> This is an extension of behavior on other system. iconv(3) is a standard > > >>>> libc interface and libiconv port expects to be able to run alongside it on > > >>>> systems that have it. > > > > > >>> Unfortunately I expect this will break many ports, when the libiconv > > >>> port is installed. A simple example is the following: > > >> > > > > > >> It also breaks installworld when /usr/src and /usr/obj are NFS exported > > >> read-only. > > > > > > I think it has to do with share/i18n/csmapper and share/i18n/esdb using > > > directories as make targets. This apparently causes these files to be > > > rebuilt at 'make installworld' time, which is always bad but is only > > > detected when /usr/obj is read-only. > > > > > > A hack that works is to enclose the four targets depending on ${SUBDIR} > > > in .if !make(install) . > > > > > > Unfortunately, the Makefiles were written to depend on the directories > > > as make targets fairly deeply, so a real fix is harder. > > > > I was looking at this yesterday, but was tied up with other things. I'll > > take a look at it today after getting a few other things done. It should be > > easy enough to replicate by changing /usr/obj to readonly on test systems. > > FWIW, this is still broken. Again, this is still broken. -- Joel