From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 05:03:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AB216A4CE; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:03:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FB543D31; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:03:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050404050324.UVHV5402.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 01:03:24 -0400 From: To: "Chris Hill" Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 01:03:24 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050403223444.S53903@frambozen.monochrome.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal cc: Randy Pratt cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: dot.icabod@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: New Freebsd Install Guide Available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:03:26 -0000 As stated in the content displayed by those URL's the Install guide is free to anyone to download and very plainly states the content is contributed to public domain. So why are so many people asking the same question when the answer is so self evident? And this writer takes offence to anybody calling the promoting of this Install guide as verbally trashing the handbook. I don't need to do that. Many others have done that over the years. Any regular reader of the list will know that the handbook content has had many people voicing concern over its less than basic ability to convey meaningful instructions. No need to open that flame war again. The bottom line is the firewall section of this Install guide has been lifted and used to replace the FreeBSD official handbook's complete firewall section all ready. Any body can lift any part of the install guide and put forth their own effort to use it as source to replace other sections of the official handbook. There is nothing stopping you so go for it. This Install guide has a much more meaningful index which is right there all the time helping the reader to navigate the guides different subjects. The presentation method of the index and content on split screen is more in line with modern web content that every ones sees these days. Plus the install Guide progresses in an step by step manner from installing the base default system all the way up to configurating a private LAN which can masquerade as a commercial user. This address the desired server configuration most often wanted by the majority the first time posters to this questions list. Another important niche this FreeBSD Install Guide covers is that it is downloadable direct to ms/window boxes and can be viewed using the ms/explorer browser. You UNIX purists have to accept the fact that there are many ms/win users who want to be FreeBSD users and dual win/FreeBSD users out there and this Install guide opens up a bridge to the FreeBSD operating system to service this untapped potential user group. Just watch the posts on the list for the magnitude of ms/office top posters to bear out that truth. The official handbook in its current format does not address this. Since its 3/1//05 public domain release this install guide has been visited 1500 times and downloaded 216 times. This was mostly from people who responded from the UNIX news groups postings. The best thing for the FreeBSD doc group to do is request to be an official mirror of the Install guide. Hay the Doc group will have the best win win situation here. They get an alternate view of the install process that is maintained outside of the FreeBSD project. Much like the pf firewall has its own self maintained user guide. Now this is something to think about. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:47 PM To: bob@a1poweruser.com Cc: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com; Randy Pratt; Giorgos Keramidas; dot.icabod@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Freebsd Install Guide Available On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 bob@a1poweruser.com wrote: > YES there is something major wrong with the official handbook. [snip] > The FreeBSD Install Guide is mirrored at the following sites. > > http://freebsd.easyasthat.co.uk/ > http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php > http://freebsd.packards-home.net/index.php > www.a1poweruser.com > http://freebsdinfo.org/ > http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/ > http://freebsd.95mb.com/ Since all of these URLs (those which respond, at least) go to essentially the same content, I have a few questions: 1) Who wrote this? 1a) Could it be Joseph Barbish? 2) Regardless, could the author be persuaded to contribute his/her wisdom to the official documentation, rather than verbally trash the latter? Persipiring minds want to know. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"