From owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Wed Aug 10 00:44:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78915BB2123 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schwarze@usta.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A8419B6 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schwarze@usta.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 61F6FBB2122; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: doc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A0ABB2121 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schwarze@usta.de) Received: from scc-mailout-kit-02.scc.kit.edu (scc-mailout-kit-02.scc.kit.edu [IPv6:2a00:1398:9:f712::810d:e752]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D25219B5 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schwarze@usta.de) Received: from asta-nat.asta.uni-karlsruhe.de ([172.22.63.82] helo=hekate.usta.de) by scc-mailout-kit-02.scc.kit.edu with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (envelope-from ) id 1bXHdD-0004Pe-Lf for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:44:29 +0200 Received: from donnerwolke.usta.de ([172.24.96.3]) by hekate.usta.de with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1bXHdD-0004y9-Dg for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:44:27 +0200 Received: from athene.usta.de ([172.24.96.10]) by donnerwolke.usta.de with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bXHdD-0006z2-9I for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:44:27 +0200 Received: from localhost (athene.usta.de [local]) by athene.usta.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id e63f1406 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:44:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:44:27 +0200 From: Ingo Schwarze To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: advocacy/myths.html Message-ID: <20160810004427.GA4119@athene.usta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.2 (2016-07-01) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:44:33 -0000 Hi, this page makes some nice points, thanks! Here are three aspects where i sense opportunities for polishing a few details: * The BSD codebase is old, outdated, and dying Together with the link https://www.freebsd.org/features.html , you could also show the link http://www.openbsd.org/innovations.html if you want to. * There are no applications for *BSD The following sentence is outdated and should be removed: "The Linux emulation layer will also run the vast majority of i386 Linux applications, and the majority of SunOS4 applications can be run on a SPARCStation." Support for running binaries compiled for other operating systems was completely removed from OpenBSD, including Lunix emulation. There was almost no demand for doing so, and deleting the compatibility layer allowed to simplify parts of the kernel, speeding up kernel development and reducing the risk of kernel bugs. * There are no applications for *BSD Regarding the sentence "Their lower number of ported applications reflects this": While it is certainly true that more software has been ported to FreeBSD than to OpenBSD, the difference may not be as large as it seems from the pure numbers: In the OpenBSD ports tree, unmaintained, outdated, and low-quality software gets quite aggressively removed, first and foremost to help ports maintainers maintain the tree, but also to help end-users find relevant software more easily. Besides, OpenBSD porters keep pushing patches upstream, making the codebases of various free software projects better and safer for everyone, even on Linux. (Similar communication might happen on the part of FreeBSD and NetBSD porters - i'm not sure, you will know more about that than i do.) Yours, Ingo