From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 2 19:24:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03631 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03620; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id NAA08269; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:53:38 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199612030323.NAA08269@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: TCP/IP bandwidth bragging In-Reply-To: <199612030133.UAA18131@jenolan.caipgeneral> from "David S. Miller" at "Dec 2, 96 08:33:44 pm" To: davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:53:37 +1030 (CST) Cc: dyson@freebsd.org, dennis@etinc.com, kpneal@pobox.com, hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David S. Miller stands accused of saying: > > You can say whatever you want. And whats more, I am told often by > disgruntled Solaris performance engineers that lmbench is "bush > league", that is perfectly fine with me. My response is, if it is so > bush leage, why is it so difficult for these systems to get better > numbers than Linux? Stay down. Well, where to start. Look at the author of "lmbench", and consider the politics of his particular disease. Then consider the SPECmark fiasco. If you can't see the picture clearly then, I'm happy to supply two-by-four correction. > And watch out, I have gigabit ethernet and FDDI coming very soon as > well. SGI cannot even touch my bandwidth and latencies over 100baseT. Who said anything about SGI? If I sit down with an embedded processor system and any sort of network-alive RTOS, I can make your numbers look sick. How'd you like a negative TCP latency? It's not hard to do; nor is 100% medium occupancy. But that system's not going to run applications much better than Linux does, and this brings us back to John's point; micro-level benchmarks are for weiner-waving losers who fail to comprehend that computers are for _doing_ things with. > David S. Miller -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[