From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 13:34:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98FFFAAA; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 13:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F1FAF3; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 13:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.82) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1WVLJL-000hAN-Rf>; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:34:35 +0200 Received: from g225032232.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.225.32.232] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.82) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1WVLJL-001hbk-MQ>; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:34:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:34:34 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" To: Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market Message-ID: <20140402153434.1f55f2f3.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20140401094044.GX44074@e-new.0x20.net> <083e01cf4db9$f8f4e040$eadea0c0$@FreeBSD.org> <20140401174302.GU44074@e-new.0x20.net> <20140401195006.GA1368@tiny-r255948> Organization: FU Berlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/28E/=qeD+dDec4IhSbOI/zy"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-IP: 92.225.32.232 X-ZEDAT-Hint: A Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Lars Engels , Matthias Apitz , Eitan Adler , hackers@freebsd.org, dteske@freebsd.org, Jordan Hubbard , "current@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 13:34:39 -0000 --Sig_/28E/=qeD+dDec4IhSbOI/zy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:10:22 -0700 Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > No, mutt, with vim as mail composer. :) > > > > +1 > > > > matthias > > > > (FreeBSD since 2.2.5 and sending this from an EeePC 900, > > netbook, UMTS connected, KDE4 desktop, sound, webcam, vim, mutt, > > sendmail, ...) > > >=20 > FreeBSD desktop since 3.3 (makes me a newbie!)=20 FreeBSD server and desktop since 2.0 (replaced Ultrix 4.3 system). Does it = makes me an "oldie"?=20 I'm stuck since with FreeBSD on private systems and a couple of years ago, = I had no problems even run servers based on FreeBSD for my department. I dislike this unspecific terminus "desktop", since people seem to associate entertainment systems with neat graphics, mouse and other interesting "huma= n" stuff (even audio). On the other hand, "server" seems hardcoded to unfancy 19inch= rack-based plastic-metal-based clumsy and noisy high-performance systems stored in a d= ark air-conditioned cellar.=20 But what is with the old-fashioned terminus "workstation"? In a more scient= ific environment, systems with the performance needs of a "server" but with the = exterior habitus of a "desktop" were very often called "workstation". Nowadays, we run a single remaining FreeBSD server and I kept my "desktop" = system also working on FreeBSD (11.0, recent hardware, by the way). We had to change th= e other "desktops" (I prefer workstation) towards Linux due to the need of OpenCL i= n combination with some expensive TESLA boards for numerical modelling and datellite imag= e processing. The software we used was mostly "home-brewn" so we didn't rely on commercia= l Linux-only stuff and it would have been an easy task to run the software also on FreeB= SD based workstations - if the GPU could be used.=20 Even the SoC platforms come with OpenCL support (also for the GPU) these da= ys and i do not see anything useful on FreeBSD (except POCL for CPU usage, but no GPU). My contribution to 1st of April ... Oliver=20 --Sig_/28E/=qeD+dDec4IhSbOI/zy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTPBHrAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8JW4IALJvf7bCD64yQzibnA1A75er G3+b2tISfs/URMm3sZcQRGwf4gd9XW8hAbHITV4LmMPf/LmEpUj5mLJIK0jq3IUi XqyuKo++M0le3Sw9jxgv+Eaq/b7Vw+vlQH4a7PW3as1R/YDoqRJacpRIvLFiIDEU m7qV1zDJGMAygl6Tk5pfAEFQOIAtCOE+PM4GoF+UxYSJYvRlygJNUfGe+PB5TLMj aI9IRBc3OpXzLNBQCEqoumShUB5Il/xsPSelIW78JLqdT0F0aCsYT2f1DeI8Ma2i mBv4EKcqhgS574F5tscwbKA8THtRRzaCPjPuePuwrPxSRk/N4w7HoYm0pQu3vcs= =Zjrs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/28E/=qeD+dDec4IhSbOI/zy--